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Post by needyou527 on Mar 8, 2012 8:24:04 GMT -6
They really get a lot considering they get free health & dental care for life, including their spouses & entire families also getting this. I know a neighbor who retired recently at only 55 yrs. old as many do. I'm just curious if his pension is taxed, or is that just another thing the California retired teachers get in their package, WITH THE GUARANTEED COST OF LIVING RAISES yearly? The poor people on social security don't get raises usually & when they do it sure doesn't amount to much. I read the retired teachers here in Ca. make more retired than many of the teachers in other states who are working! It is ridiculous and I'm tired of paying for all of this in my taxes. I feel sorry for the new teachers, they are being laid off, or really aren't making much while we all suffer to pay the retired ones who could very easily live longer than they ever worked. They didn't really work 30 yrs. it's really about 21 to 22 years. Most people do not have summers off and all the holidays they get, plus get home at 3:00 most afternoons. Most of them actually have the gall to complain they won't be getting much in social security; however, they didn't have to pay into it. They are getting 3 times more than the average person gets on social security, plus the free health & dental care for LIFE. It's mandatory other people pay into social security, and many can't get it if they become disabled. Most times they have to fight forever to get it or never get it.
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Post by unlawflcombatnt on Mar 8, 2012 12:33:09 GMT -6
It's true that there are a lot of advantages to being a teacher.
But high pay was never one of them--at least not below the college level.
And one of the reasons the pay is not high is because teachers were given more generous benefits, rather than higher pay. That was part of the deal.
States love to do this, because they don't have to pay as much in salaries at the present time. Instead, they "promise" benefits in the future--benefits that don't cost them a penny at present. In doing this, states have more current revenue for Corporate giveaways and legislative perks.
Teachers & the state of California negotiated these benefits as part of their contracts, assuming that the state would make good on those same contracts that they are legally bound to fulfill.
If the State wasn't willing to put money aside for those obligations, or wasn't willing to raise taxes enough to fulfill them, it never should have signed or agreed to them.
But the State DID agree to them, and now the State is 100% legally & ethically obligated to fulfill them.
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