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Post by jeffolie on Sept 29, 2012 17:47:47 GMT -6
Brown vetoes bills to give cities new economic powers The governor had ordered the closure of hundreds of local redevelopment agencies to help close a budget shortfall. He turned away six efforts to replace them, saying it's too soon. Brown OKs restrictions on Buy Here Pay Here lots State adopts wider law on guns Brown signs open-carry ban on rifles and shotguns in cities, plus college, carpool bills. www.latimes.com/news/local/la-me-brown-bills-20120929,0,6875477.story ============================ Gov. Jerry Brown signed legislation Friday outlawing the open carrying of rifles and shotguns in cities across California. The measure was among dozens of bills the governor approved that take effect Jan. 1, including proposals intended to help curb student fee hikes at the state's public universities and exempt hybrid drivers from toll charges in carpool lanes. Brown also signed a measure banning state agencies from regulating Internet phone service — a priority for the tech industry — and took steps to establish a state-run retirement plan for low-wage, private-sector workers. Brown vetoed bills that would have increased fines for Californians who use a cellphone while driving and required motorists to provide at least three feet of space between their vehicle and bicyclists they pass. He has until the end of Sunday to act on proposals sent to him by the Legislature in the session that ended last month. Nearly 200 bills remain on his desk. The gun measure sprang from the actions of gun rights advocates who toted long guns to coffee shops and other public places to declare their right to bear arms. It took on new urgency after the mass shootings at an Aurora, Colo., movie theater and a Milwaukee Sikh temple. The bill allows law enforcement to "focus on pressing duties free from the threat of an 'open carry' stop spiraling out of control or turning deadly," said its author, Assemblyman Anthony Portantino (D-La Cañada Flintridge). Gun rights advocates see the measure, AB 1527, as an infringement on their rights. Brown signed another firearms measure that permits film and television crews to use sawed-off shotguns as props in productions. The weapons are otherwise illegal in California. The bill, also by Portantino, is AB 1559. He accepted legislation mandating that the Cal State Board of Trustees and the UC Board of Regents consult with student groups before increasing fees. The measure also requires the officials to justify any increase and the use of the money, and bars the universities from increasing fees 90 days after the start of the school year. The bill, AB 970, is by Assemblyman Paul Fong (D-Sunnyvale). Brown also signed an exemption for solo drivers with low-emission or hybrid vehicles from charges in "high-occupancy toll," or HOT, lanes. Currently, drivers must pay to use those lanes if they are not carrying passengers. The measure, AB 2405 by Assemblyman Bob Blumenfield (D-Woodland Hills), will affect parts of I-15 in San Diego and I-680 in Alameda and Santa Clara counties. The governor rejected a bill that would have increased the fine for driving or text messaging while using a hands-on phone, declaring in his veto message that existing penalties were sufficient. "I have found even a $50 ticket unpleasant enough," Brown wrote. "My point here is that the current fines are not trivial but do in fact get drivers' attention." The measure is SB 1310 by state Sen. Joe Simitian (D-Palo Alto). Brown signed a separate Simitian measure, SB 1303, that establishes statewide guidelines for the installation and operation of red-light cameras. The measure prohibits the use of the devices to raise revenue and makes it easier for drivers to challenge unjustified tickets. The governor also freed most Internet phone service from state regulation. Telecommunications giants including AT&T and Verizon Communications, Inc., said the bill Brown signed, SB 1161 by state Sen. Alex Padilla (D-Pacoima), locks into law a current "hands-off" policy by the California Public Utilities Commission. The PUC does not regulate the phone service that works by sending voice signals at least partly over digital Internet networks rather than traditional copper wire. In his signing message, Brown said he approved the bill "to encourage the continued growth of these and other innovative services that have become the hallmark of our state." At the same time, he acknowledged the concerns of consumer advocates, stressing that protection for telephone customers will be safeguarded. The governor also approved a study to explore the creation of a state-run retirement plan for the private sector. If later approved by lawmakers, such a program would require private employers to withhold about 3% of the wages of employees who do not have traditional company pensions or 401(k) plans and who choose to participate. The state would collect the money, invest it and eventually provide those employees a modest sum when they retire. State Sen. Kevin De Leon (D-Los Angeles), author of the measure, SB 1234, said it was needed to help prevent a tidal wave of "discarded seniors" forced to retire with little savings or income after lifetimes of manual labor. www.latimes.com/news/local/la-me-brown-bills-20120929,0,6875477.story
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Post by unlawflcombatnt on Sept 30, 2012 1:04:02 GMT -6
There are lots of thing wrong in this legislation. In fact, just about everything. But I want to focus on the anti-gun legislation. The main purpose of outlawing open carry rifles is to protect bankers, rich people, politicians, and cops from the angry masses. Robberies are rarely committed with rifles. Average American citizens are NOT being gunned down in the street with rifles. Few have ever been gunned down with rifles. This is all about protecting the safety of the rich elite, and their agents in Government and law enforcement. It is an overt attempt to protect Government from the public--and public outrage. Our forefathers are turning over in their graves over this. [/font][/b]." ---THOMAS JEFFERSON[/ul] Another parallel is worth mentioning--Nazi Germany. Hitler used gun control and confiscation to the maximum to subdue the German citizenry. By the time he came to full power, almost no non-Nazi German could even possess a firearm. Below is an excerpt from an article describing Nazi Germany's stringent gun control policies. from usa-the-republic.com/jurisprudentiaNov 2011 by Joyce Rosenwald In 1928, five years before the rise of Hitler, Germany's freely elected government enacted a "Law on Firearms and Ammunition." This law required anyone who owned a firearm, or who wanted to own a firearm, to make themselves known to the authorities. Anyone who wanted to purchase a firearm had to get a "Firearms Acquisition Permit." If you needed ammunition, you had to get an "Ammunition Acquisition Permit." When you wanted to go hunting, you had to get an "Annual Hunting Permit." Every firearm that changed hands professionally had to have a serial number and the maker's or dealers name stamped into the metal. "Proof of need" was made a condition for issuance of all licenses, not just the carry permit. Mandatory prison sentences were imposed on anyone who professionally sold or transferred a firearm or ammunition without a license. Truncheons and stabbing weapons were subject to the same licensing requirements as firearms, in terms of their manufacture and sale.
As a result of the 1928 Law, all firearms and firearms owners were registered. To take firearms from anyone they distrusted, the Nazis simply did not renew permits. Under the law, their privately created law, the Nazis could now easily confiscate all firearms and ammunition from any, or all, selected groups. The gun law of 1928 had served the Nazis well. It made almost all law abiding firearms owners known to the authorities. The 1928 law on firearms and ammunition helped the Nazis to destroy democracy in Germany, by disarming the law abiding majority, whom they feared.
By the end of 1931, a rising tide of violence, mainly between Nazi and Communist street fighters, moved the authorities to tighten restrictions. Under new regulations, the police could order everyone's firearms and ammunition ... even items not normally used as weapons ... to be put into police custody,
"If the maintenance of public security and order require it."
'1, Fourth Regulations of the President for the Protection of the Economy and Finance, and on the Defense of Civil Peace, December 8, 1931
The Nazis came to power legally. They were voted into power. In elections held on March 5, 1933, the Nazis fell short of 50 percent of the vote. Hitler, afraid the public might oust him, didn't plan to hold more elections. On March 23, 1933, parliament voted to give him emergency powers under the Constitution. There were no more elections in Germany until after World War II. The Nazis were far from being popular with the German people. The Nazis knew that many Germans opposed them. The Nazis used the 1928 Law on Firearms and Ammunition to disarm their opponents and to prevent any armed resistance. The Nazis, at most, were a minority of the German population, not the majority. The Nazis operated within the Law. But in Germany, as here, a small private elite group wrote and defined the Law. WHEN YOU CREATE THE LAW, YOU CAN DEFINE THE LAW. IT CAN BE AS LEGAL TO ABOLISH LAWS AS IT IS TO INSTITUTE THEM. Hitler not only came to power legally, but instituted dictatorship legally.
On taking power in 1933, the Nazis did not immediately begin killing Jews. In April 1933, the Nazis enacted a law that kept Jews out of the civil service, universities, and most professions. In September 1935, the Nuremberg Laws were enacted: Jews lost their civil rights. In November 1938, the Nazi SS troops were unleashed against Germany's Jews. Jewish property was confiscated.
On March 18 1938, the Nazis enacted a new, tougher, gun control law. The Nazi Weapons Law (Waffengesetz) ensured that only Nazis and their friends could own or carry weapons, especially handguns. Licenses to sell, own, or carry firearms were required, except for exempted Nazi organizations and officials. Private persons were not exempt, but a Nazi Party Membership Card was proof of political reliability. The Nazi Weapons Law stated that no Jew could be involved in any business involving firearms. On November 11 1938, one day after the SS were unleashed against the Jews, new regulations under the Nazi Weapons Law barred Jews from owning any weapons.
Gun control in Nazi Germany was not difficult to enforce. Being a police state, (operating under the police power, not law) to get a "Firearm Acquisition License", one had to prove one's identity ---- the national identity card) --- and one's political loyalty (nazi party membership card). With strong police state controls over people, (loss of civil rights) gun control was easily enforced. A disarmed population is helpless. Bureaucrats and obedient civil servants "just doing their job", helped the Nazis carry out their plans. Without the help of those good people who were just doing what they were told, the Nazis could never have murdered as many people as they did.
The Nazi Weapons Law of March 18, 1938 is the blueprint for "Gun Control" in America today. America could not make Nazi style gun control work without the documents that Nazi style gun control needs. THE NAZI STYLE GUN CONTROL LAWS WERE ENACTED BY THE FEDERAL CONGRESS AS THE U.S. GUN CONTROL ACT OF 1968. Under this Act: every law abiding firearm owner had to prove that he/she was law abiding; firearms dealers had to record purchases and sales of firearms on behalf of the federal government. Federal and/or state bureaucrats (un-elected civil servants) got the new and broad power to decide who, among law abiding persons, may own and/or carry firearms and under what conditions what type of firearms may lawfully be owned. The vague concept of "sporting purpose" as a way of classifying firearms was introduced. Transactions in ammunition had to be recorded (this is no longer so). Ammunitions that were "legal" were subject to control by bureaucrats.
The Nazi gun control law required nation wide identification papers. Here in America the "social security number" created by Executive Order under President Franklin Roosevelt, is used as a national identifier. The Nazi gun law required a "Firearm Owner Identity Card." In Illinois, a person who wants to own a firearm has to get a "Firearm Owner Identification Card" complete with photograph. This takes 4 to 6 weeks. This "FOID" card is the direct descendent of the Nazi "Firearm Acquisition Permit" (Waffenerwerbschein), concealed carry permits are generally not available....
In Massachusetts, a "FOID" (Waffenerwerbscheine) card is necessary to own a firearm. To transport a pistol, even in a locked gun case in a locked trunk requires a "carry permit," the direct descendant of the Nazi "Firearm Carry Permit" (Waffenschein). To get this permit, or a permit for general concealed carry, three (3) letters of reference are required, as is a safety course at applicant's cost, a test of one's knowledge of firearm law, and a talk with the chief of police. The chief of police may still withhold the permit. If he agrees to issue the permit, the applicant is then finger printed.
In New Jersey, an applicant must first get a "Firearm Purchaser Identification Card" (Waffenerwerbschein), which requires finger printing. There is a special document for would be handgun owners, the "Permit to Purchase a Handgun." It is valid for 90 days, (extendable for 90 days for "good cause") and only for one handgun. Copies of this permit must be sent to the issuing authority (the local police) and the state police; the seller keeps a copy and the purchaser keeps a copy. Concealed carry permits (Waffenschein) are only rarely issued and are valid for no more than 2 years. A "justifiable need" must be shown, but the term is not defined. The local police chief must approve it. His approval is reviewed by the Court in the applicants county of residence.
For the Nazis, society was the end, individuals the means, and its whole life consisted in using individuals as instruments for its social ends. Individuals rights were only recognized in so far as they were implied in the rights of the state. The state was conceived as an absolute, in comparison with which all individuals or groups are relative, only to be conceived of in their relation to the state. The Nazi state was viewed as an embodied will to power and government. The Nazi's ruled under Police Power. The essential method of the police power is that of regulation, restriction, or prohibition, but not that of taking for public use. This power or means is used where the government does not desire ownership of anything, but wishes rather to control the conduct of individuals. Sometimes regulation is much easier when a license is required. Some courts here in America have held that the taking of a few dollars for licenses, the primary purpose not being revenue, is an exercise of the police power. The courts have held that where "regulation goes too far it will be recognized as a taking." In operation, it may be defined as the power of the state (government) to regulate the conduct of individuals to the point of complete prohibition of certain acts of conduct or even to the destruction of the things involved. This belief in the police power is the theory that animates a number of dictatorial and totalitarian regimes throughout the world today."
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Post by jeffolie on Oct 1, 2012 10:31:23 GMT -6
There are lots of thing wrong in this legislation. In fact, just about everything. But I want to focus on the anti-gun legislation. The main purpose of outlawing open carry rifles is to protect bankers, rich people, politicians, and cops from the angry masses. Robberies are rarely committed with rifles. Average American citizens are NOT being gunned down in the street with rifles. Few have ever been gunned down with rifles. This is all about protecting the safety of the rich elite, and their agents in Government and law enforcement. It is an overt attempt to protect Government from the public--and public outrage. Our forefathers are turning over in their graves over this. [/font][/b]." ---THOMAS JEFFERSON[/ul] Another parallel is worth mentioning--Nazi Germany. Hitler used gun control and confiscation to the maximum to subdue the German citizenry. By the time he came to full power, almost no non-Nazi German could even possess a firearm. Below is an excerpt from an article describing Nazi Germany's stringent gun control policies. from usa-the-republic.com/jurisprudentiaNov 2011 by Joyce Rosenwald In 1928, five years before the rise of Hitler, Germany's freely elected government enacted a "Law on Firearms and Ammunition." This law required anyone who owned a firearm, or who wanted to own a firearm, to make themselves known to the authorities. Anyone who wanted to purchase a firearm had to get a "Firearms Acquisition Permit." If you needed ammunition, you had to get an "Ammunition Acquisition Permit." When you wanted to go hunting, you had to get an "Annual Hunting Permit." Every firearm that changed hands professionally had to have a serial number and the maker's or dealers name stamped into the metal. "Proof of need" was made a condition for issuance of all licenses, not just the carry permit. Mandatory prison sentences were imposed on anyone who professionally sold or transferred a firearm or ammunition without a license. Truncheons and stabbing weapons were subject to the same licensing requirements as firearms, in terms of their manufacture and sale.
As a result of the 1928 Law, all firearms and firearms owners were registered. To take firearms from anyone they distrusted, the Nazis simply did not renew permits. Under the law, their privately created law, the Nazis could now easily confiscate all firearms and ammunition from any, or all, selected groups. The gun law of 1928 had served the Nazis well. It made almost all law abiding firearms owners known to the authorities. The 1928 law on firearms and ammunition helped the Nazis to destroy democracy in Germany, by disarming the law abiding majority, whom they feared.
By the end of 1931, a rising tide of violence, mainly between Nazi and Communist street fighters, moved the authorities to tighten restrictions. Under new regulations, the police could order everyone's firearms and ammunition ... even items not normally used as weapons ... to be put into police custody,
"If the maintenance of public security and order require it."
'1, Fourth Regulations of the President for the Protection of the Economy and Finance, and on the Defense of Civil Peace, December 8, 1931
The Nazis came to power legally. They were voted into power. In elections held on March 5, 1933, the Nazis fell short of 50 percent of the vote. Hitler, afraid the public might oust him, didn't plan to hold more elections. On March 23, 1933, parliament voted to give him emergency powers under the Constitution. There were no more elections in Germany until after World War II. The Nazis were far from being popular with the German people. The Nazis knew that many Germans opposed them. The Nazis used the 1928 Law on Firearms and Ammunition to disarm their opponents and to prevent any armed resistance. The Nazis, at most, were a minority of the German population, not the majority. The Nazis operated within the Law. But in Germany, as here, a small private elite group wrote and defined the Law. WHEN YOU CREATE THE LAW, YOU CAN DEFINE THE LAW. IT CAN BE AS LEGAL TO ABOLISH LAWS AS IT IS TO INSTITUTE THEM. Hitler not only came to power legally, but instituted dictatorship legally.
On taking power in 1933, the Nazis did not immediately begin killing Jews. In April 1933, the Nazis enacted a law that kept Jews out of the civil service, universities, and most professions. In September 1935, the Nuremberg Laws were enacted: Jews lost their civil rights. In November 1938, the Nazi SS troops were unleashed against Germany's Jews. Jewish property was confiscated.
On March 18 1938, the Nazis enacted a new, tougher, gun control law. The Nazi Weapons Law (Waffengesetz) ensured that only Nazis and their friends could own or carry weapons, especially handguns. Licenses to sell, own, or carry firearms were required, except for exempted Nazi organizations and officials. Private persons were not exempt, but a Nazi Party Membership Card was proof of political reliability. The Nazi Weapons Law stated that no Jew could be involved in any business involving firearms. On November 11 1938, one day after the SS were unleashed against the Jews, new regulations under the Nazi Weapons Law barred Jews from owning any weapons.
Gun control in Nazi Germany was not difficult to enforce. Being a police state, (operating under the police power, not law) to get a "Firearm Acquisition License", one had to prove one's identity ---- the national identity card) --- and one's political loyalty (nazi party membership card). With strong police state controls over people, (loss of civil rights) gun control was easily enforced. A disarmed population is helpless. Bureaucrats and obedient civil servants "just doing their job", helped the Nazis carry out their plans. Without the help of those good people who were just doing what they were told, the Nazis could never have murdered as many people as they did.
The Nazi Weapons Law of March 18, 1938 is the blueprint for "Gun Control" in America today. America could not make Nazi style gun control work without the documents that Nazi style gun control needs. THE NAZI STYLE GUN CONTROL LAWS WERE ENACTED BY THE FEDERAL CONGRESS AS THE U.S. GUN CONTROL ACT OF 1968. Under this Act: every law abiding firearm owner had to prove that he/she was law abiding; firearms dealers had to record purchases and sales of firearms on behalf of the federal government. Federal and/or state bureaucrats (un-elected civil servants) got the new and broad power to decide who, among law abiding persons, may own and/or carry firearms and under what conditions what type of firearms may lawfully be owned. The vague concept of "sporting purpose" as a way of classifying firearms was introduced. Transactions in ammunition had to be recorded (this is no longer so). Ammunitions that were "legal" were subject to control by bureaucrats.
The Nazi gun control law required nation wide identification papers. Here in America the "social security number" created by Executive Order under President Franklin Roosevelt, is used as a national identifier. The Nazi gun law required a "Firearm Owner Identity Card." In Illinois, a person who wants to own a firearm has to get a "Firearm Owner Identification Card" complete with photograph. This takes 4 to 6 weeks. This "FOID" card is the direct descendent of the Nazi "Firearm Acquisition Permit" (Waffenerwerbschein), concealed carry permits are generally not available....
In Massachusetts, a "FOID" (Waffenerwerbscheine) card is necessary to own a firearm. To transport a pistol, even in a locked gun case in a locked trunk requires a "carry permit," the direct descendant of the Nazi "Firearm Carry Permit" (Waffenschein). To get this permit, or a permit for general concealed carry, three (3) letters of reference are required, as is a safety course at applicant's cost, a test of one's knowledge of firearm law, and a talk with the chief of police. The chief of police may still withhold the permit. If he agrees to issue the permit, the applicant is then finger printed.
In New Jersey, an applicant must first get a "Firearm Purchaser Identification Card" (Waffenerwerbschein), which requires finger printing. There is a special document for would be handgun owners, the "Permit to Purchase a Handgun." It is valid for 90 days, (extendable for 90 days for "good cause") and only for one handgun. Copies of this permit must be sent to the issuing authority (the local police) and the state police; the seller keeps a copy and the purchaser keeps a copy. Concealed carry permits (Waffenschein) are only rarely issued and are valid for no more than 2 years. A "justifiable need" must be shown, but the term is not defined. The local police chief must approve it. His approval is reviewed by the Court in the applicants county of residence.
For the Nazis, society was the end, individuals the means, and its whole life consisted in using individuals as instruments for its social ends. Individuals rights were only recognized in so far as they were implied in the rights of the state. The state was conceived as an absolute, in comparison with which all individuals or groups are relative, only to be conceived of in their relation to the state. The Nazi state was viewed as an embodied will to power and government. The Nazi's ruled under Police Power. The essential method of the police power is that of regulation, restriction, or prohibition, but not that of taking for public use. This power or means is used where the government does not desire ownership of anything, but wishes rather to control the conduct of individuals. Sometimes regulation is much easier when a license is required. Some courts here in America have held that the taking of a few dollars for licenses, the primary purpose not being revenue, is an exercise of the police power. The courts have held that where "regulation goes too far it will be recognized as a taking." In operation, it may be defined as the power of the state (government) to regulate the conduct of individuals to the point of complete prohibition of certain acts of conduct or even to the destruction of the things involved. This belief in the police power is the theory that animates a number of dictatorial and totalitarian regimes throughout the world today." [/quote] Exactly right ... one might hope this gets appealled sucessfully
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