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Post by ULC on Apr 1, 2016 12:37:52 GMT -6
projects.fivethirtyeight.com/election-2016/delegate-targets/democrats/Clinton.. 1,266 pledged delegates won Sanders 1,038 pledged delegates won The Democratic National Committee includes 712 “superdelegates,” usually elected officials and party leaders, whose votes at the convention are not bound to a candidate based on primary and caucus results. Because superdelegates can change their preferences before the convention, we are not including them in our delegate targets.
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Post by unlawflcombatnt on Apr 5, 2016 22:36:42 GMT -6
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Post by ULC on Apr 20, 2016 11:55:06 GMT -6
for Apr 20, 2016,
Clinton:.. 1,444 pledged delegates Sanders: 1,207 pledged delegates
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Post by unlawflcombatnt on Apr 28, 2016 0:01:58 GMT -6
The race is not close to being over.
Clinton leads Sanders by less than 300 delegates when
Clinton: 1,661 pledged delegates won Sanders: 1,374 pledged delegates won
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Post by unlawflcombatnt on Apr 30, 2016 22:53:06 GMT -6
Below is a link and an excerpts from an LA Times article on how the delegate system works. It gives totals needed, especially regarding the Democratic Primary. However, it was clearly written by a Clinton supporter, who simply refuses to cite only the pledged delegate total, which is all that really counts until the Democratic Convention is over. The salient parts of the article are that there are some 4,765 total Democratic Party primary delegates available. The winner needs to get a bare majority of those delegates--2,383. There are 712 superdelegates available. Those are NOT officially counted prior to the convention, despite what all the dishonest pro-Clinton groupies ("reporters") are trying to make us believe. That that means is that only 4,053 (4,765 - 712) pledged delegates are available. That means that Sanders needs on 1,670 delegates before the convention to prevent Clinton from winning on pledged delegates alone--and BEFORE the convention. Sanders already has 1374 delegates. He only needs o win 299 more delegates of the approximately 1,200 remaining delegates to prevent Clinton from winning on pledged delegates (i.e., before the convention). Assuming Sanders doesn't drop out before the convention, it's virtually guaranteed that he'll get more than 299 delegates, or greater than 25% of remaining delegates. As such, it's virtually guaranteed Clinton will not win the nomination on pledged delegates from the Primaries........................... from the LA Times www.latimes.com/politics/la-na-delegate-process-explainer-20160422-snap-htmlstory.htmlThe delegate chase: How the presidential nomination process really worksApril 27, 2016 By Melanie Mason "As the presidential primary race slogs on for both major parties, one thing has become increasingly clear: It’s not (just) about the voters. Of course, candidates are chasing wins in the popular vote tallied in primary elections and caucuses. Just as crucially, though, they are seeking to rack up delegates to their party conventions, a related task that will actually determine who becomes the presidential nominees. Understanding the delegate chase requires both vocabulary and math lessons. Delegates are the party stalwarts, elected officials and grass-roots activists who represent their respective states at the national conventions this summer and vote for a nominee. Though the Republican race has garnered more attention, the Democrats’ process is a more straightforward place to start. Democratic delegate selection When Democrats convene in Philadelphia in July, 4,765 delegates will be present. The threshold for a majority is 2,383 delegates.... Clinton and rival Bernie Sanders are vying for 2 types of delegates: pledged and superdelegates. Pledged delegates cast their vote according to how their state voted. Superdelegates — a collection of 712 party leaders, elected officials and other high-profile Democrats — are allowed to vote for whomever they choose."
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Post by unlawflcombatnt on May 1, 2016 23:52:48 GMT -6
www.yahoo.com/news/bernie-sanders-campaign-launch-anniversary-200031589.htmlBernie Sanders begins making case to Hillary Clinton’s superdelegates May 1, 2016 by Dylan Stableford Bernie Sanders held a press conference in Washington, D.C., on Sunday to mark one year since launching his presidential bid, vowing to take his fight for the Democratic nomination to the superdelegates currently supporting frontrunner Hillary Clinton. “It’s a tough road to climb,” Sanders told reporters at the National Press Club, but “not an impossible” one. In a scene reminiscent of the sparsely attended, April 30, 2015, press conference on Capitol Hill where he formally announced his run, the Vermont senator said that those superdelegates supporting the former secretary of state ought to rethink their pledge — particularly in states where he won handily. “I would ask the superdelegates to respect the wishes of the people of those states,” Sanders said. Overall, Clinton has the support of 520 superdelegates, while Sanders, the self-described democratic socialist, has “all of 39” — despite winning 17 primaries and caucuses “in every part of the country.” Sanders pointed out that although he won Washington state’s Democratic caucuses by 46 points (73 percent to 27 percent) and 25 of the state’s 36 pledged delegates, Clinton has the support of 10 of Washington’s Democratic unpledged superdelegates. “We have zero,” he said. “Obviously, we are taking on the entire Democratic establishment.” Clinton’s lead over Sanders in pledged delegates is 1,645 to 1,318. “Let’s be clear,” Sanders said. “It is virtually impossible for Secretary Clinton to reach the majority of convention delegates by June 14 — the end of the primary season — with pledged delegates alone. She will need superdelegates to take her over the top at the convention in Philadelphia. In other words, it will be a contested convention.” He urged the superdelegates to consider which Democratic candidate would have the best chance of winning in November. And “based on virtually every national and state poll over the last several months,” Sanders said, that would be him. “I would be the stronger candidate,” he said, noting that it “would be a disaster if Donald Trump or some other rightwing Republican were to become president of the United States.” Sanders also said superdelegates should consider the youthful enthusiasm he’s injected into the Democratic Party, drawing a total of more than 1.1 million people to his rallies and a record 7.4 million individual campaign contributions — statistics that Sanders says prove his nomination would not only secure the White House but also help Democrats win down-ballot races in the fall. “The energy and excitement in this campaign is with the work we have done,” Sanders said. “This is an important reality that superdelegates cannot ignore.”
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Post by unlawflcombatnt on May 4, 2016 16:49:43 GMT -6
Here's another link to the total Democratic National Convention Delegates from the state of Washington's site. www.thegreenpapers.com/P16/DThe so-called "soft" pledged delegates are as follows: Clinton, Hillary 1,704 Sanders, Bernie..1,414 So, despite media propaganda, Sanders trails Clinton by only 290 pledged delegates. As such, if Sanders gets just 300 delegates of the 900+ remaining delegates from the remaining primaries (all of which are open), he prevents Clinton from winning the primary before the convention. And it's damn near guaranteed Sanders will get at least half of those remaining 900+ delegates--or 450+--thus preventing Clinton from winning before the Convention. Clinton absolutely does NOT have the nomination "clinched", nor is she even close.
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Post by unlawflcombatnt on May 4, 2016 16:56:59 GMT -6
A word on "unpledged" delegates (i.e., "Super Delegates")
The states (and D.C.) are also assigned a number of "Unpledged" delegates:
"Unpledged PLEOs" consisting of the following: •Democratic National Committee members. •Democratic Members of Congress (U.S. Senators, Representatives, and Delegates). •Democratic Governors, except those who are already members of the Democratic National Committee and, therefore, are delegates re: a.) above. •Distinguished Party Leaders (current and former U.S. Presidents and Vice-Presidents, former Democratic Leaders of the U.S. Senate and U.S, House- including former Democratic Speakers of the House and former chairmen of the Democratic National Committee.
These "Unpledged" delegates go to the Convention officially "Unpledged" (that is, not committed- ahead of time- to vote for any particular presidential contender), though it is well known that many- if not most- of these may very well be privately supporting a presidential contender. The number of these "Unpledged" delegates to the Democratic National Convention is subject to change up to the first meeting of the Convention due to deaths, resignations from office (for those PLEOs who hold an elective office) or accession- by a Democrat- to an elective office through an intervening election or special election. In addition, any Unpledged PLEO who shall subsequently become a Pledged PLEO may further alter the number of Unpledged National Convention delegates within a given delegation."
The breakdown of the delegate votes is as follows: •3,560 Base delegate votes (2,650 district delegate votes and 910 at-large delegate votes) •491 Pledged PLEOs (meaning a total of 4,051 delegate votes to be determined by either a primary or a caucus/convention system in each state or other jurisdiction) •714 Unpledged delegate votes. •TOTAL: 4,765 delegate votes.
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Post by unlawflcombatnt on May 7, 2016 10:45:35 GMT -6
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