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Post by unlawflcombatnt on Jul 1, 2006 13:06:38 GMT -6
The following poll was started on Democratic Underground as a critique of Lou Dobbs' immigration position. It was started by a pro-amnesty, Lou Dobbs hater, hoping to validate his own blind, race-baiting views and rhetoric. The implication by the poster of the poll is that everyone that opposes illegal immigration is a "racist." Therefore, Lou Dobbs must be a racist. In fact, the poster placed the same poll twice, hoping the results would be different the 2nd time. They were not. Here is the poll question: "Lou Dobbs is a racist xenophobe...agree?"(from Democratic Underground, starting on 5/25/06 continued through 6/30/06) Looks to me like most people (66%) do not think Dobbs is a racist. And only 28% do. And this is from a site that is labeled by Right-Wingers as an "extreme" leftist site.
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Post by graybeard on Jul 4, 2006 5:02:17 GMT -6
Thanks for that, UC. I continue to be baffled why most Dem politicians are not opposing the aliens who are here illegally. These politicans are going against their base - the lower and middle classes. They don't deserve to win, but their losing leaves us with a one-party government - like the USSR. GB
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Post by unlawflcombatnt on Jul 6, 2006 12:15:26 GMT -6
Graybeard,
I couldn't agree with you more. I'm hoping that if enough of these poll results are circulated, maybe some of this sentiment will "trickle up" to Democratic legislators and candidates. So far, the Democratic elite seems oblivious to the views of the majority of the rank-and-file. In contrast, they certainly do appear to be aware of the views of their big-money campaign contributors.
I just recently posted a CRS summary of H.R. 98 from the Thomas site. This is the simplest, most direct legislation I've seen designed to curtail illegal hiring by employers. It has 57 co-sponsors, including some Democrats. Two of the co-sponsors are California's own Democratic Congresswomen Grace Napolitano and Maxine Waters.
I think the major obstacle to passage of this bill is that it is too simple, and doesn't allow for enough obfuscation by politicians and employers to allow them to continue hiring illegally. In other words, H.R. 98 might actually work.
And we can't let that happen, can we?
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Post by graybeard on Jul 6, 2006 20:22:28 GMT -6
I've read somewhere that the employer enforcement provisions in HR98 could take up to six years to be fully in force. That's hardly helpful. GB
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Post by unlawflcombatnt on Jul 7, 2006 20:26:10 GMT -6
Graybeard, Regarding the 6-year delay, you might have heard that from me. If so, I was referring to the employer enforcement provisions of H.R. 4437, not H.R. 98. I don't know how long it will take for the employer sanctions to take effect on H.R. 98. Regarding the "6-year" delay on H.R. 4437, that was my own reading of the law. Some claim employer sanctions will go into effect sooner. But it still looks like 6 years to me. And a 6-year delay would make it an essentially worthless bill. By the time 6 years comes to pass, they'll have probably repealed all the employer sanctions. In reading the text to H.R. 98, under Sec. 5 and 6, it appears that there is a 2-year delay before employer sanctions are implemented. Below are 2 passages referring to the implementation date: from page 6 (7) " (c) EFFECTIVE DATES.—The amendment made by 5 subsection (a) shall apply with respect to Social Security 6 cards issued after 2 years after the date of the enactment 7 of this Act. The amendment made by subsection (b) shall 8 apply with respect to the issuance of Social Security ac9 count numbers and Social Security cards after 2 years 10 after the date of the enactment of this Act. 11 SEC. 4. EMPLOYMENT ELIGIBILITY DATABASE." from page 14 " 8 (c) EFFECTIVE DATE.—The amendments made by 9 this section shall take effect 2 years after the date of the 10 enactment of this Act and shall apply to employment of 11 any individual in any capacity commencing on or after 12 such effective date. 13 SEC. 6. COMPLIANCE." Below is the link to a pdf file on H.R. 98: H.R. 98
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