Post by graybeard on Jun 11, 2010 6:24:09 GMT -6
Received this in a forward:
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Thought you might be interested in this. If you open the Web Site below,
select California, open Penal Codes and then look down the list to Penal
Code 834b, you'll see that CA has the same law. Before you do that, I
suggest that you read the information below.
Now if we could only get California ... Or the US to enforce the enacted law.
law.onecle.com/california/penal/834b.html
My name is Harold R. Beasley, Sr. I am a retired Border Patrol Agent. I live in Sierra Vista , AZ. Telephone number 520-459-8587. I was the Deputy Chief Patrol Agent in San Diego for 5 years (1996 to 2001). I then transferred as an Assistant Chief Patrol Agent to Tucson , Arizona and then retired in 2002.
I did a little research and found that California has the same law (Penal Code 834b) on their books and are complaining about Arizona just passing our New Immigration Law. Wow, is this the pot calling the kettle black?
Please note the last section 834(b)(c). Looks like Los Angeles and San Francisco Mayors have violated California Law and should be investigated by the Attorney General of California.
Below is the message that I sent to the Mayors of Los Angeles and San Francisco :
You are fighting the new Arizona Immigration Law. Well take a good look at your laws over in California . You are telling Arizona that we are racists and will be racial profiling. Read California Penal Code 834b. You are violating your own State Laws by not enforcing Penal Code 834b. You have had the same law for many years and NO ONE has been protesting your law. WHY IS THAT?
834b. (a) Every law enforcement agency in
California shall fully cooperate with the United States Immigration and
Naturalization Service regarding any person who is arrested if he or she
is suspected of being present in the United States in violation of federal
immigration laws. (b) With respect to any such person who is arrested, and
suspected of being present in the United States in violation of federal
immigration laws, every law enforcement agency shall do the following: (1)
Attempt to verify the legal status of such person as a citizen of the
United States, an alien lawfully admitted as a permanent resident, an
alien lawfully admitted for a temporary period of time or as an alien who
is present in the United States in violation of immigration laws. The
verification process may include, but shall not be limited to, questioning
the person regarding his or her date and place of birth, and entry into
the United States, and demanding documentation to indicate his or her
legal status. (2) Notify the person of his or her apparent status as an
alien who is present in the United States in violation of federal
immigration laws and inform him or her that, apart from any criminal
justice proceedings, he or she must either obtain legal status or leave
the United States . (3) Notify the Attorney General of California and the
United States Immigration and Naturalization Service of the apparent
illegal status and provide any additional information that may be
requested by any other public entity. (c) Any legislative, administrative,
or other action by a city, county, or other legally authorized local
governmental entity with jurisdictional boundaries, or by a law
enforcement agency, to prevent or limit the cooperation required by
subdivision (a) is expressly prohibited.
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A reply to the above:
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Here is the State of California penal code site and you can check for yourself:
start here - for state of Calif legislative information www.leginfo.ca.gov/
click on the "California law" section
that gives you the search page; select All and the section (number) of the code you wish to search
www.leginfo.ca.gov/cgi-bin/waisgate?WAISdocID=2292923427+2+0+0&WAISaction=retrieve is this result of the search
scroll down to 834b and ....Hmmmm ......my my my looks a lot like what was in the original message ! We have a winner.
834b. (a) Every law enforcement agency in California shall fully
cooperate with the United States Immigration and NaturalizationService regarding any person who is arrested if he or she issuspected of being present in the United States in violation offederal immigration laws.
(b) With respect to any such person who is arrested, and suspectedof being present in the United States in violation of federalimmigration laws, every law enforcement agency shall do thefollowing: (1) Attempt to verify the legal status of such person as a citizen
of the United States, an alien lawfully admitted as a permanentresident, an alien lawfully admitted for a temporary period of timeor as an alien who is present in the United States in violation ofimmigration laws. The verification process may include, but shall not
be limited to, questioning the person regarding his or her date andplace of birth, and entry into the United States, and demandingdocumentation to indicate his or her legal status. (2) Notify the person of his or her apparent status as an alien
who is present in the United States in violation of federalimmigration laws and inform him or her that, apart from any criminaljustice proceedings, he or she must either obtain legal status orleave the United States.
(3) Notify the Attorney General of California and the UnitedStates Immigration and Naturalization Service of the apparent illegalstatus and provide any additional information that may be requestedby any other public entity.
(c) Any legislative, administrative, or other action by a city,county, or other legally authorized local governmental entity withjurisdictional boundaries, or by a law enforcement agency, to preventor limit the cooperation required by subdivision (a) is expressly
prohibited.
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GB
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Thought you might be interested in this. If you open the Web Site below,
select California, open Penal Codes and then look down the list to Penal
Code 834b, you'll see that CA has the same law. Before you do that, I
suggest that you read the information below.
Now if we could only get California ... Or the US to enforce the enacted law.
law.onecle.com/california/penal/834b.html
My name is Harold R. Beasley, Sr. I am a retired Border Patrol Agent. I live in Sierra Vista , AZ. Telephone number 520-459-8587. I was the Deputy Chief Patrol Agent in San Diego for 5 years (1996 to 2001). I then transferred as an Assistant Chief Patrol Agent to Tucson , Arizona and then retired in 2002.
I did a little research and found that California has the same law (Penal Code 834b) on their books and are complaining about Arizona just passing our New Immigration Law. Wow, is this the pot calling the kettle black?
Please note the last section 834(b)(c). Looks like Los Angeles and San Francisco Mayors have violated California Law and should be investigated by the Attorney General of California.
Below is the message that I sent to the Mayors of Los Angeles and San Francisco :
You are fighting the new Arizona Immigration Law. Well take a good look at your laws over in California . You are telling Arizona that we are racists and will be racial profiling. Read California Penal Code 834b. You are violating your own State Laws by not enforcing Penal Code 834b. You have had the same law for many years and NO ONE has been protesting your law. WHY IS THAT?
834b. (a) Every law enforcement agency in
California shall fully cooperate with the United States Immigration and
Naturalization Service regarding any person who is arrested if he or she
is suspected of being present in the United States in violation of federal
immigration laws. (b) With respect to any such person who is arrested, and
suspected of being present in the United States in violation of federal
immigration laws, every law enforcement agency shall do the following: (1)
Attempt to verify the legal status of such person as a citizen of the
United States, an alien lawfully admitted as a permanent resident, an
alien lawfully admitted for a temporary period of time or as an alien who
is present in the United States in violation of immigration laws. The
verification process may include, but shall not be limited to, questioning
the person regarding his or her date and place of birth, and entry into
the United States, and demanding documentation to indicate his or her
legal status. (2) Notify the person of his or her apparent status as an
alien who is present in the United States in violation of federal
immigration laws and inform him or her that, apart from any criminal
justice proceedings, he or she must either obtain legal status or leave
the United States . (3) Notify the Attorney General of California and the
United States Immigration and Naturalization Service of the apparent
illegal status and provide any additional information that may be
requested by any other public entity. (c) Any legislative, administrative,
or other action by a city, county, or other legally authorized local
governmental entity with jurisdictional boundaries, or by a law
enforcement agency, to prevent or limit the cooperation required by
subdivision (a) is expressly prohibited.
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A reply to the above:
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Here is the State of California penal code site and you can check for yourself:
start here - for state of Calif legislative information www.leginfo.ca.gov/
click on the "California law" section
that gives you the search page; select All and the section (number) of the code you wish to search
www.leginfo.ca.gov/cgi-bin/waisgate?WAISdocID=2292923427+2+0+0&WAISaction=retrieve is this result of the search
scroll down to 834b and ....Hmmmm ......my my my looks a lot like what was in the original message ! We have a winner.
834b. (a) Every law enforcement agency in California shall fully
cooperate with the United States Immigration and NaturalizationService regarding any person who is arrested if he or she issuspected of being present in the United States in violation offederal immigration laws.
(b) With respect to any such person who is arrested, and suspectedof being present in the United States in violation of federalimmigration laws, every law enforcement agency shall do thefollowing: (1) Attempt to verify the legal status of such person as a citizen
of the United States, an alien lawfully admitted as a permanentresident, an alien lawfully admitted for a temporary period of timeor as an alien who is present in the United States in violation ofimmigration laws. The verification process may include, but shall not
be limited to, questioning the person regarding his or her date andplace of birth, and entry into the United States, and demandingdocumentation to indicate his or her legal status. (2) Notify the person of his or her apparent status as an alien
who is present in the United States in violation of federalimmigration laws and inform him or her that, apart from any criminaljustice proceedings, he or she must either obtain legal status orleave the United States.
(3) Notify the Attorney General of California and the UnitedStates Immigration and Naturalization Service of the apparent illegalstatus and provide any additional information that may be requestedby any other public entity.
(c) Any legislative, administrative, or other action by a city,county, or other legally authorized local governmental entity withjurisdictional boundaries, or by a law enforcement agency, to preventor limit the cooperation required by subdivision (a) is expressly
prohibited.
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GB