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Post by waltc on May 20, 2011 11:18:10 GMT -6
Denninger has another good piece on Indiana's removal of the 4th amendment and this little tid bit from one of the Gestapo cops there. Link: market-ticker.org/akcs-www?post=186541CROWN POINT, Ind. – According to Newton County Sheriff Don Hartman Sr., random house-to-house searches are now possible and could be helpful following the Barnes v. STATE of INDIANA Supreme Court ruling issued on May 12th, 2011. When asked three separate times due to the astounding callousness as it relates to trampling the inherent natural rights of Americans, he emphatically indicated that he would use random house to house checks, adding he felt people will welcome random searches if it means capturing a criminal.And yet not a word from the ACLU, Maddow, ADL, CATO institute, Limbaugh, Jon Stewart, conservative talk radio, etc. The elites from the Right and Left are united in stripping Americans of their constitutional rights. And some of you hacks thought they actually cared about you. Still most people don't get it, the rich are not like the rest of us. Remember if they get away with in Indiana, your state is next.
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Post by jeffolie on May 20, 2011 12:36:51 GMT -6
One needs to separate, distinguish the ruling in Indiana from the new US Sup Ct. ruling. They are very different. The US Sup Ct. ruling applies all across America rather being limited to Indiana. No flushing, moving sounds...US Sup Ct OKs warrantless entry...home not castle "...."When law enforcement officers who are not armed with a warrant knock on a door, they do no more than any private citizen may do," Alito wrote. A resident need not respond, he added. But the sounds of people moving and perhaps toilets being flushed could justify police entering without a warrant..." The standard is now so low that the mere allegation by police that people made sounds is adequate US Sup Ct. justification for a warrantless entry... Your home is your castle concept is not written in the US Constitution and not interpreted by this US Sup Ct. as a common law right anymore now that this ruling changed the prior rulings. 'lawful' entry was decided in this ruling which is a different standard than the Indiana Sup Ct. ruling that pushed off the 'lawful entry' decision which now refuses people the option of 'legally' resisting police entry at all. --------------------------------------------------------- In Indiana: 4th Amend violated by Indiana Sup Ct: OKs illegal cop entry Court: No right to resist illegal cop entry into home Supreme Court ruling in Barnes v. State Read more: unlawflcombatnt.proboards.com/index.cgi?board=peeves&action=display&thread=9066#ixzz1Mv3Yz1MP=================================================================== Supreme Court gives police leeway in home searches Officers may break in if they hear sounds and suspect that evidence is being destroyed, the justices say in an 8-1 decision. Justice Ginsburg dissents. May 17, 2011 Read more: unlawflcombatnt.proboards.com/index.cgi?board=peeves&action=display&thread=9066#ixzz1Mv3Dvwq9
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Post by waltc on May 20, 2011 23:46:47 GMT -6
I'm aware the rulings are different and that both courts effectively have made a illegal and unConstitutional ruling. In addition the justices in both cases should be jailed and later hung for high treason against the country.
Of course I don't expect anything like this to happen. We've begun our slide into a 3rd world police state and eventual civil war and dissolution of sorts. So forget about those bullshit food riots you've been predicting, it's gonna get worse once the bubble pops.
Just wait when the local stasi wipe out a innocent family.
That said, I was shocked that not one civil rights group or big time lawyer protested this. It's clear the legal community has no real use for the Bill of Rights or Constitution nor for the country as a whole.
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Post by waltc on May 21, 2011 0:04:16 GMT -6
And speaking of Stasi killing people here's a case out of Pima County AZ where the psycho cops shot a man 70 times(basically they machine gunned him to death). Ever see the weapons SWAT carries, most is full auto 9mm H&K MP5's with custom ammunition to shred human beings. The Stasi basically shot him from outside of his house by their own admission, they just stood outside his front window and machine gunned him dead. BTW SWAT does not ID itself before entering a house, they crash it, since they have no-knock warrants. But the good news he wasn't a criminal but a working stiff so the big legal guns won't get involved. The Stasi will undoubtedly get medals for heroism. Link: azstarnet.com/news/local/crime/article_a978c23a-a40f-5d0a-a203-76b88ac67e86.html?mode=story
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Post by unlawflcombatnt on May 21, 2011 8:36:22 GMT -6
And speaking of Stasi killing people here's a case out of Pima County AZ where the psycho cops shot a man 70 times(basically they machine gunned him to death). Ever see the weapons SWAT carries, most is full auto 9mm H&K MP5's with custom ammunition to shred human beings. The Stasi basically shot him from outside of his house by their own admission, they just stood outside his front window and machine gunned him dead. BTW SWAT does not ID itself before entering a house, they crash it, since they have no-knock warrants. But the good news he wasn't a criminal but a working stiff so the big legal guns won't get involved. The Stasi will undoubtedly get medals for heroism. Did the "suspect" even fire on the SWAT team?? From the story it sounds like they surprised a mine worker at home while he was sleeping, who picked up his AR-15 to defend himself against intruders (or so he thought), and then was shot 60 times--with out him ever even firing a shot back at the SWAT team members. Since when has it ever been OK for Law Enforcement to gun down a suspect who never even fired a shot? For all we know, his AR-15 wasn't even loaded. Of course, we'll never know, since a judge has sealed all the evidence to protect the police. So are we just supposed to intrinsically know it's the police banging on our doors, just because they claim to be the police? It's impossible to see a badge or a uniform from behind a closed door. And if you open the door to find out--and they're not the police--you're dead. (In this case he ended up dead because it was the police.)
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Post by jeffolie on May 21, 2011 9:33:20 GMT -6
Politics matter and freedoms/liberties are now being cut.
Next week Tea Party House members may repeat their opposition to portions of the Patriot Act now up for renewing the Patriot Act extension. Tea Party House member last time restrained and reformed the Obama language to take away and cut some freedoms/liberties. Tea Party rhetoric opposes government, next week will determine if the current politics of the incumbent Tea Party Representatives follow their rhetoric.
Our current US Sup. Ct. aggressively takes from individuals and gives to corporations.
Elections determine who gets to be a US Sup. Ct. justice by deciding who is the President, who is in Congress to 'advise and consent' to the justices' appointments and influencing the backdrop when US Sup Ct decisions are made.
Republicans stand a significant chance of getting more justices after the 2012 elections that aggressively takes from individuals and gives to corporations.
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