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Post by jeffolie on Aug 13, 2012 16:59:25 GMT -6
Catholic, religious Ryan will help Romney.
My guess is those dispising govt will be co-opted into voting enthusiastically for VP Ryan nominee thus electing reluctantly Romney. The Tea Party would not vote for Obama and with Ryan on the ticket has already increased turnout at Romney political events adding enthusiam to the ground game lacking in Romneys TV airtime game. Rarely mentioned openly is Ryan's religion, Catholic. Whoever wins the Catholic vote in Nov will win the election in my opinion. I doubt Romney will be significantly different than Obama ... some differences such as 1. pealing back most of Obamacare and 2. perhaps eventually a war like action with American military being invited to fight drug tarifficing inside Mexico to distract the masses from our decaying economy.
If those dispising govt become disaffected with the upcoming new 2013-6 govt and if a distracting war action fails to channel their anger and scapegoat enemy needs, then I expect the 2016 or 2020 elections elections to feature a 3rd party candidate who will not win. After that, then it might be possible for an underground, subversive movement of those dispising govt.
I do not percieve an underground, subversive movement of those dispising govt happening anytime soon.
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Post by jeffolie on Aug 13, 2012 17:30:14 GMT -6
Gallup Polling Re Ryan: ========================== " ... Most Voters Say Ryan Won't Affect Their Vote in November Ryan's direct impact on the ticket is only slightly positive, with 17% of Americans saying his selection makes them more likely to support Romney and 12% less likely to support him, while 66% say it will not affect their vote. Americans' statement that the vice presidential pick won't affect them is not unusual. In every election from 1988 through 2008, the majority of voters said each new vice-presidential nominee would not have much effect on their vote, including sizable majorities of voters in several of these. Nearly Half Consider Ryan Qualified Nearly half of Americans, 48%, consider Ryan qualified for the job of president, while 29% disagree and 23% are unsure. This positions Ryan ahead of both Palin and Quayle in the "qualified" rankings of past vice presidential nominees; however, he still trails all other recent candidates on this score. Bottom Line Vice presidential picks typically enjoy a lopsidedly positive reaction from Americans when they are first tapped to be on a presidential ticket. However, that doesn't apply to Ryan, likely owing to his leading role in authoring major conservative alternatives to President Obama's policies on healthcare and the federal budget -- plans that elicited significant Democratic criticism and pushback. Still, Ryan appears to have two important things working in his favor at this point: 1) relatively strong support from Republicans, with about four in 10 evidently excited about him as an "excellent" choice for vice president; and 2) relatively low name ID nationally. This gives the Romney campaign a valuable opportunity to introduce Ryan to voters as his visibility skyrockets. Of course, this advantage could also become a disadvantage if the Obama campaign is able to define Ryan first in less flattering terms. It is often noted that Americans vote for president, not vice president, so it is unclear how much views of Ryan will matter come Nov. 6. George H.W. Bush won handily in 1988 despite voters' significant doubts about Quayle; and John Kerry and Bob Dole both lost despite the initially warm public reactions to their respective running mates, Edwards and Kemp. www.gallup.com/poll/156545/Reaction-Ryan-Pick-Among-Least-Positive-Historically.aspx?utm_source=alert&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=syndication&utm_content=morelink&utm_term=All Gallup Headlines - Politics
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Post by unlawflcombatnt on Aug 14, 2012 0:00:27 GMT -6
I do not percieve an underground, subversive movement of those dispising govt happening anytime soon. I don't either. But: Even those doing well right now financially realize the precariousness of their status. A good income today could easily be gone tomorrow. This is an ongoing problem that is escalating--and it is escalating into the higher incomes where people DO get involved. Our economic situation is like a tender-box on a wooden floor waiting to be set on fire. The bottom could drop out real fast. A subversive movement would not be surprising at that point.
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