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Post by nomad943 on Jan 16, 2008 7:42:55 GMT -6
Something realy smelly is happening here in New Hampshire. What should have turned into a simple hand recount, an audit, is turning into a circus which now appears will yield nothing but another count of a few "pre selected" democratic precincts and that is all. This is exactly what Nader wound up with in 2004. Authorities pre selected 5 precincts and ... to everyones surprise, they checked out fine. On the Republican side, it seems that the funding for the recount was frozen by the bank allowing the deadline to pass harmlessly. There is question as to whether the demand for full funding up front is legal but Bev Harris of BBV is throwing as much water as she can find on the effort; not like she would have anything to personaly gain by fanning the doubts about election security. grannywarrior.chipin.com/recountwww.blackboxvoting.org/Will someone let me offof this ship of fools ....
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Post by nomad943 on Jan 16, 2008 8:56:59 GMT -6
>cut and paste ... nothing I can add ...
From: "Shaun @ Start The Revolution" Subject: Well, what can I say? No Recount in New Hampshire! Date: Wed, 16 Jan 2008 12:28:35 -0000 I do not know where to begin with all of this so I will just lay out the basic facts as they are being reported to me:
The state of New Hampshire ballot appeared to have been tampered with. The people of America (and about half of the world too!) pulled together to sign a petition and have their voice heard, across the aisle, in an effort that has seen both Democrats and Republicans call for a recount of the ballots for the state of New Hampshire. The Secretary of State placed a January 15th @ 15:00 deadline for the $55,600 to be handed over to cover the cost of the recount. The money was raised by, again, people from all walks of life who simply wanted to see that every vote was counted. At the very last moment, PayPal froze the Granny Warriors account and refused to release the funds whilst they “investigated” a “suspicious” $1000 donation. The money could not be handed over and thus, at this point in time, it appears that the recount will NOT take place.
So, the following is what we are meant to believe:
PayPal have clearly not been paying ANY attention to what has been happening during this campaign and thus have no idea how quickly and in what amounts the Ron Paul Revolution is able to raise funds. PayPal were clearly unaware that Ron Paul supporters were in the majority of those donating to this effort and would likely break the target REGARDLESS of what last minute donations were required. PayPal were so unlucky during the four days that this appeal ran that they managed to: Crash the original ChipIn at least 3 times making it impossible during this time to donate any money at all. Destroy the original ChipIn altogether after around $40,000 had been donated requiring the Granny Warriors to start a new ChipIn for the remaining monies. Crash the new ChipIn for about 2 hours on and off on the final fundraising date. Stop the recount by denying that all and any funds received are now frozen (note: NOT just the $1000 which, by this point, was no longer needed as we were over the top by then) pending an investigation into where a perfectly decent sized donation came from. The Secretary of State is unable to stretch the deadline or accept that said funds exist regardless of the amount of documented evidence placed on his desk. This entirely calamitous and accidental chain of events was, at no point whatsoever, manipulated by anybody to ensure that this recount never took place.
I am sorry but I do not believe for one second that 1 through 4 could possibly have happened without 5 being false.
I never will either.
This is democracy being stolen, right in front of our eyes and we are watching it, some in disbelief, some in denial, all in bond.
America has been stolen and the vote with it.
I do not know what comes next. What new horrors? What new wars? What new laws?
I fear for the future of America.
Best wishes and good luck,
Shaun
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Post by graybeard on Jan 16, 2008 10:06:09 GMT -6
That explains Hillary beating Obama.
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Post by unlawflcombatnt on Jan 16, 2008 21:54:05 GMT -6
For anyone that dismisses the New Hampshire debacle as simply a "conspiracy theory," the following passage might make them re-think their assessment. It sure made me do so.
"VIDEO CAMERA CONFISCATION?
In New Hampshire, ballots are brought from each town and ward to a central location for recounts. We got a tip today that the location would be the state archive building, so we went there hoping for a walk-through.
There, police told us that videotaping the delivery of the ballots and the unloading of the ballots, would be prohibited and cameras would be confiscated if people were caught doing this. The rationale, we were told, was that they had placed the ballot delivery area in a state building with a parking lot that belonged to a mental hospital located on the grounds about a block away. On the theory that cameras might catch a mental patient wandering around and invade his privacy, all videotaping would be prohibited.
Now, there was 14 inches of snow yesterday and the drifts and mounds are up to 10 feet high, so the idea that a mental patient could even walk through this to the state archives to get their privacy invaded by a camera filming ballot unloading seemed preposterous. Paddy Shaffer got on the horn and called the chief of the "campus police" handling the mental hospital and he confirmed that cameras would be confiscated. We later alerted Secretary of State Bill Gardner, who called off the police video-busting rule.
SECRECY IN CHAIN OF CUSTODY
One official told us he thought the location of the delivered ballots should be a secret and that there would be no public observation...."
Meanwhile, all the pre-election polls had Obama ahead—but Clinton won. Multiple polling places initially reported 0 votes for Ron Paul, yet ballots later showed he had received votes at those polling sites.
And then there's the PayPal chicanery.
What sane person could think this was a fair, honest, or properly conducted election?
Someone should investigate LHS voting systems ties to any candidates, along with PayPal.
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Post by nomad943 on Jan 17, 2008 8:18:10 GMT -6
PayPal tidbits.. PayPal is owned by eBay, Inc. The CEO and President of eBay Inc, Meg Whitman, is known as a supporter of former Massachusetts' Republican governor Mitt Romney's presidential campaign in 2008 and is now on his "National Finance Team". She is also listed as Finance co-chair of Romney's campaign exploratory committee. Doesnt mean a thing but it sure is interesting. Another interesting thing is the "fair and balanced" coverage that the local FAUX affiliate is giving to the recount efforts. Check it out ... might make one think that they are digging near a nerve .. www.myfoxboston.com/myfox/pages/News/Politics/Detail?contentId=5505203&version=1&locale=EN-US&layoutCode=VSTY&pageId=3.14.1
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Post by nomad943 on Jan 17, 2008 8:21:02 GMT -6
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Post by judes on Jan 17, 2008 19:25:51 GMT -6
Please tell me Bev Harris is not related to Katherine Harris of Florida recount fame... Now that would really take the cake.
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Post by nomad943 on Jan 18, 2008 6:56:15 GMT -6
Game, Point, Match ... According to numerous reliable sources, ballot boxes are leaving the towns with seals intact ... put into transportation vans to be taken to the central counting location .... and when they arrive either the selas are broken or the boxes are slit .... This is too funny ... and the MSM doesnt say a word about any of this farm3.static.flickr.com/2025/2201019136_808debe736.jpg?v=0
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