Post by unlawflcombatnt on Mar 1, 2009 12:33:26 GMT -6
"A free people ought not only to be armed and disciplined, but they should have sufficient arms and ammunition to maintain a status of independence from any who might attempt to abuse them, which would include their own government.”
~George Washington
Firearms are 2nd only to the Constitution in importance;
they are the peoples' liberty's teeth.
~George Washington"
Though I tend to be in the middle when it comes to gun control, the author of the article below makes excellent points about the right to bear arms, and the need to protect that right. He describes what the original intent was of our Founding Fathers in guaranteeing that right--that citizens be armed sufficiently to protect themselves from the government, and to instill the fear in government that if they fail to serve the will of the People, they could be forcefully removed from office.
The first government of the United States WAS afraid of the people. Failure to serve them could have resulted in a violent overthrow by force. Government's do listen to the People when faced with a fully-armed citizenry.
That same fear should still exist today. And it's this very fear, not crime prevention, that causes legislators to advocate for stricter gun control. The proof of this is in the emphasis on banning assault weapons, instead of hand guns.
Hand guns are the weapons of committing crimes and protecting from crime.
Assault weapons are the tools of Revolution. And that's what our government is really worried about. It's not us they're trying to protect. It's themselves. It's the ruling Plutocracy that's afraid of citizens fully armed with assault weapons, not the citizens themselves.
Below is a post from "Reason Tradition and Liberty Blogspot," discussing the latest attempts by Congress to restrict gun ownership.
reasontraditionandliberty.blogspot.com/2007/11/why-we-have-right-to-bear-arms.html
Below are the details of HR 45, the latest attempt to restrict firearms ownership in this country:
"HR-45, Blair Holt's Firearm Licensing and Record of Sale Act of 2009.
1.- If you own guns you will need a Federal gun owners ID, which will include retina scans, fingerprints
2.- Each gun that you own must be registered.
3.- You may only sell a gun to a registered gun collector or gun dealer and each transaction has to pay a $25 fee. You may not sell a gun directly to a friend. Guns cannot be passed from one generation to another without going through a gun dealer.
4.- If you have a gun lost or stolen you must report it within (I don't remember - a week I think)
5.- Failure to report a lost or stolen gun will result in fines and up to 2 years in the pen.
6.- If children under 18 years old reside in your home your guns must be disassembled and kept under lock and key.
7.- Federal inspectors can request to see your guns and your paperwork at any time. If they find that your guns are not locked up, then you will be."
"The discussion about our right to own firearms completely misses the point. The writers of the Constitution were not worried about our ability to hunt, nor were they concerned about assuring that we could ward off burglars. The sole reason that firearms were important enough to be included in the Bill of Rights was to guarantee our ability to protect ourselves from OUR government.
If we are armed in order to keep the government in check, to keep it from taking away our rights, then our weapons have to be threatening to the government. In 1791 the citizens of this country were armed almost as well as the army was. The government had many reasons to protect the rights of the citizenry: one of those reasons being the last resort of revolution. The arms of the citizens kept the government honest.
That idea has been purposely buried so as to confuse the issue. We hear concerned police and leftist politicians concede that hunting guns make sense; that we should have the right to own a shotgun, but that assault rifles and semiautomatic handguns are too dangerous for citizens to own. We hear pundits say that many arms are too dangerous and too threatening. The media never mentions that our arms must be as dangerous and threatening as those in the hands of Homeland Security and the local Sheriff’s Department in order for the Second Amendment to be meaningful.
But now there are many government entities working to limit the firearms that we can own, and at the same time the government is militarizing our police departments. Your local sheriffs department is now armed with M16s, grenade launchers, high-powered sniper rifles, body army and grenades. What is that firepower for? It is a bit excessive for crime fighting. It is equipment that is designed to control large mobs with deadly force. The expense involved in this militarization is huge; the total cost of this militarization it is in the billions. Why is the government arming to confront large groups of people here in the United States?
The NRA has not been a very good representative of gun owners because they do not share the philosophy of mistrust in our government. They have become a big Washington lobby that is part of the system, not a check on the system. So citizens need to write their Congressmen and make noise in the press and on the Internet. We need arms that allow us to be a legitimate threat to the government. Do not let them take away our assault rifles. At the same time we need to demand that the police departments be de-militarized. We are not well served by police that can control us all.
We are being told that it is patriotic to keep step with the government. That is a LIE! It is patriotic to make the government fear US, not for us to fear the government."
reasontraditionandliberty.blogspot.com/2007/11/why-we-have-right-to-bear-arms.html
~George Washington
Firearms are 2nd only to the Constitution in importance;
they are the peoples' liberty's teeth.
~George Washington"
Though I tend to be in the middle when it comes to gun control, the author of the article below makes excellent points about the right to bear arms, and the need to protect that right. He describes what the original intent was of our Founding Fathers in guaranteeing that right--that citizens be armed sufficiently to protect themselves from the government, and to instill the fear in government that if they fail to serve the will of the People, they could be forcefully removed from office.
The first government of the United States WAS afraid of the people. Failure to serve them could have resulted in a violent overthrow by force. Government's do listen to the People when faced with a fully-armed citizenry.
That same fear should still exist today. And it's this very fear, not crime prevention, that causes legislators to advocate for stricter gun control. The proof of this is in the emphasis on banning assault weapons, instead of hand guns.
Hand guns are the weapons of committing crimes and protecting from crime.
Assault weapons are the tools of Revolution. And that's what our government is really worried about. It's not us they're trying to protect. It's themselves. It's the ruling Plutocracy that's afraid of citizens fully armed with assault weapons, not the citizens themselves.
Below is a post from "Reason Tradition and Liberty Blogspot," discussing the latest attempts by Congress to restrict gun ownership.
reasontraditionandliberty.blogspot.com/2007/11/why-we-have-right-to-bear-arms.html
Below are the details of HR 45, the latest attempt to restrict firearms ownership in this country:
"HR-45, Blair Holt's Firearm Licensing and Record of Sale Act of 2009.
1.- If you own guns you will need a Federal gun owners ID, which will include retina scans, fingerprints
2.- Each gun that you own must be registered.
3.- You may only sell a gun to a registered gun collector or gun dealer and each transaction has to pay a $25 fee. You may not sell a gun directly to a friend. Guns cannot be passed from one generation to another without going through a gun dealer.
4.- If you have a gun lost or stolen you must report it within (I don't remember - a week I think)
5.- Failure to report a lost or stolen gun will result in fines and up to 2 years in the pen.
6.- If children under 18 years old reside in your home your guns must be disassembled and kept under lock and key.
7.- Federal inspectors can request to see your guns and your paperwork at any time. If they find that your guns are not locked up, then you will be."
"The discussion about our right to own firearms completely misses the point. The writers of the Constitution were not worried about our ability to hunt, nor were they concerned about assuring that we could ward off burglars. The sole reason that firearms were important enough to be included in the Bill of Rights was to guarantee our ability to protect ourselves from OUR government.
If we are armed in order to keep the government in check, to keep it from taking away our rights, then our weapons have to be threatening to the government. In 1791 the citizens of this country were armed almost as well as the army was. The government had many reasons to protect the rights of the citizenry: one of those reasons being the last resort of revolution. The arms of the citizens kept the government honest.
That idea has been purposely buried so as to confuse the issue. We hear concerned police and leftist politicians concede that hunting guns make sense; that we should have the right to own a shotgun, but that assault rifles and semiautomatic handguns are too dangerous for citizens to own. We hear pundits say that many arms are too dangerous and too threatening. The media never mentions that our arms must be as dangerous and threatening as those in the hands of Homeland Security and the local Sheriff’s Department in order for the Second Amendment to be meaningful.
But now there are many government entities working to limit the firearms that we can own, and at the same time the government is militarizing our police departments. Your local sheriffs department is now armed with M16s, grenade launchers, high-powered sniper rifles, body army and grenades. What is that firepower for? It is a bit excessive for crime fighting. It is equipment that is designed to control large mobs with deadly force. The expense involved in this militarization is huge; the total cost of this militarization it is in the billions. Why is the government arming to confront large groups of people here in the United States?
The NRA has not been a very good representative of gun owners because they do not share the philosophy of mistrust in our government. They have become a big Washington lobby that is part of the system, not a check on the system. So citizens need to write their Congressmen and make noise in the press and on the Internet. We need arms that allow us to be a legitimate threat to the government. Do not let them take away our assault rifles. At the same time we need to demand that the police departments be de-militarized. We are not well served by police that can control us all.
We are being told that it is patriotic to keep step with the government. That is a LIE! It is patriotic to make the government fear US, not for us to fear the government."
reasontraditionandliberty.blogspot.com/2007/11/why-we-have-right-to-bear-arms.html