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Post by Michael on Nov 12, 2009 15:00:18 GMT -6
....and they don't seem to care.
Everyday people lack basic economic, government, and financial knowledge.
Man cannot sell 1ounce gold coin for $50.
After watching these 2 videos, I can only say that Americans don't deserve economic prosperity, civili liberties, or democracy. They deserve to be serfs. Unfortunately, the few thoughtful and intelligent people out there (like the ones on this forum) will have to go down with the ship.
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Post by fredorbob on Nov 18, 2009 3:55:31 GMT -6
If an Italian guy walked up to me on the street and said he was selling a "gold coin" for $50 i'd refuse too. Too many scammers
You do realize that even if you actually physically possessed the gold, you would have a hard time moving it. If you are worried about inflation purchase Alcohol, Tobacco, and Firearms. You know, consumables everyone knows the value of.
American's aren't idiots, those are actually smart consumers avoiding a rip-off; and perhaps just perhaps gold isn't valued as it use to and I think that is a good thing, and a very Christian concept. That would be real "progress".
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Post by unlawflcombatnt on Nov 18, 2009 11:50:20 GMT -6
In the 1st video (with the Canadian Maple Leaf), it was a combination of people thinking both that they might be getting scammed, but also not really knowing what the coin was worth. If it was me, and if it looked like a Canadian Maple Leaf, and felt as heavy as one, I'd have paid the $50. Though it could have been part Tungsten, there'd have still been enough gold in it (at $1,100/oz.) to make it worth over $50.
The 2nd video was the more telling. Jay Leno does a lot of these on-the-street surveys, and it really is amazing how little some of his interviewees know--about anything. And it certainly does make the case as to how we got into the mess we're in, and why we continue to elect anti-populist politicians to office.
Unlike all the voter-registration advocates, I'd rather see less people vote who don't know what they're voting for. Rather than having voter registration drives, I'd rather see voter education drives--focusing on people already registered to vote.
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Post by jeffolie on Nov 18, 2009 12:34:24 GMT -6
Americans are passive and inattentive to politics. The average American enjoys the politics and economics that has not motivated Americans to fear politics and economics. This may or may not change, I do not know. Americans ignorance is due in large part to the stability and bliss that comes from American politics. Politics and economics in America are not good right now but Americans still are not motivated to act and change our passive, inattentive behavior. Americans have faith in its politics and economics even as Americans suffer.
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Post by waltc on Nov 18, 2009 16:41:31 GMT -6
Heck I'm a bit of a gold bug and even I would think someone trying to sell me a 1oz Maple Leaf for $50 was running a scam.
As for Leno's Jay Walking, it speaks for itself as to general ignorance of many Americans, which BTW isn't limited to high school graduates but Ivy League ones as well if certain polls are to be believed. Sadly much of the ignorance IMO was inculcated into these adults as children by our school system that managed to make learning as horrible as possible, then we have TV which nothing more than a medium for mind rot and venality.
The only way I see to fix voting is requiring all participants to take a simple civics test composed of three questions which would filter out probably half of the mouth breathers that show up. Others would be too terrified to show up.
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Post by graybeard on Nov 18, 2009 16:47:09 GMT -6
Sarah P has confused the TARP with the Economic Stimulus.
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Post by xtra on Nov 18, 2009 21:51:25 GMT -6
....and they don't seem to care. Everyday people lack basic economic, government, and financial knowledge. maybe so, but remember that we have elite, criminal, traitorous, immoral, evil scum running the game and protecting their criminal family like the mafia does.... most people I know, may be dumb or lack knowledge, but there not evil or greedy bastards, do you really feel all that better throwing stones at them cuzz there not as sophisticated as you? I believe the Bible says it best All three synoptics recount an episode during the Perean ministry of the Saviour where a rich young man (called a “ruler” in Luke) approaches Jesus and asks what he can do to have eternal life. Jesus tells him to keep the commandments, and in response to a request for clarification refers to the Ten Commandments. The young man replies that he has kept these from his youth, and then asks what yet he lacks. The reply is to sell all he has, give the proceeds to the poor, and follow Jesus. The young man then walks away sadly, because he had great possessions. Following this story is a section where Jesus utters the now famous proverb, which I will quote below as it is given in each gospel: “And again I say unto you, It is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle, than for a rich man to enter into the kingdom of God.” (Mt. 19:24) “It is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle, than for a rich man to enter into the kingdom of God.” (Mk. 10:25) “For it is easier for a camel to go through a needle’s eye, than for a rich man to enter into the kingdom of God.” (Lk. 18:25)
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Post by waltc on Nov 19, 2009 0:05:49 GMT -6
Sarah P has confused the TARP with the Economic Stimulus.
Technically she was correct, it was a economic stimulus for the ultra rich who own Congress and the President. The other so-called economic stimulus package was mostly pork and money for state government workers(not private sector).
That said, Xtra nailed it with this:
maybe so, but remember that we have elite, criminal, traitorous, immoral, evil scum running the game and protecting their criminal family like the mafia does....
Yep and even with a large informed citizenry(which we don't not have in any appreciable numbers) fighting such a kleptocratic cartel takes almost a act of rebellion or a insurgency against the rich and powerful. Because these people control all the levers of power from the news media to who gets the needed funding to make a successful run for the senate, etc. This makes it very hard if not impossible to use the system they control to our own ends.
Not to mention owning both political parties, who also make sure those congressmen who are trouble makers don't get any real authority to do much of anything.
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Post by grozny on Dec 2, 2009 17:18:07 GMT -6
Chill.
If you stick a microphone in people's faces and ask them silly questions, they give you silly answers.
Jay Leno is very recognizable. I don't own a TV and even I would recognize him on the street. If he asked me what two animals represent the stock market, I'd probably say something goofy like "a snake and a mouse" too.
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