Post by jeffolie on Dec 29, 2009 17:45:01 GMT -6
401Ks, IRAs trap you
This IRA vs Silver approach depends on government devaluing the Dollar. Savings disappear with collapsing purchasing power.
401Ks and IRAs will be worthless. They trap you.
At least ponzi schemes collapse when they do not pay out. 401Ks and IRAs do not pay out during your working years and baring poverty, people to not attempt to retrieve their money trapped in them.
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The Float
Bernie Madoff understood the concept of the float. He had fun with it for 30 years. A bank at any one time doesn’t have the cash to pay off all deposits and there is little worry that it will have to unless there is a run on the bank. What brought Bernie down was the fact the money coming in was less than the money going out.
Let’s travel back in time.
The FDIC insurance fund was established in 1934 to give the people confidence in the banks when there was none. If your bank had a good balance sheet that was up to par with Fed standards they were given the opportunity to become FDIC insured. Nine banks went under that first year, but that wasn’t close to the 4,000 that closed in 1933. The FDIC was pretty much collecting insurance premiums from the banks and paying out very little in claims.
Fannie Mae was created in 1938 to help stimulate the “depressed” housing market. Banks were not interested in investing in home loans. So this government program supplied the banks with federal money to finance home mortgages. Notice here too, the damage to the housing market had already occurred. Fannie wasn’t really sticking its neck out to insure the market.
Then we have the IRA retirement plans that started in 1974. These plans allow a wage earner to shelter income from taxes. Once you put it in the plan, it is no longer yours, the government tells you when you can spend it. Pay in hard earned dollars today and get back watered down whiskey when you retire.
Fast forward back to today.
If we examine the savings of our nation, It is somewhere around 20 trillion dollars. Probably between 8 to 14 trillion of that has vaporized. So going back to the Ponzi scheme, two things have happened that were not anticipated. The FDIC is insuring the bad decisions of bank managment, bank credit became very easy to come by. Also our government is insuring investors against loss for home loans that were written to just about anyone. It could be argued that the government programs encouraged this mess.
Madoff's Ponzi scheme collapsed when funds withdrawn exceeded those being deposited, and it ruined a great many people. Now we have a Ponzi scheme that depends on the Federal Reserve printing currency to cover the bad home loans and cover the failed banks. There is no concept that the Federal Reserve can run out of money or go to jail.
Now if we take this one step further, there was no excess money for Congress to spend during the prosperous years. But they found ways to increase spending. Now we have a financial crisis and funds are being found in abundance. We know that Congress never saved for that rainy day. Just look at the national debt at 12 trillion dollars. Do you get the feeling that somewhere along the line people are going to want real money, not this stuff that Bernanke is printing?
Presently if the dollar were to be revalued, 1:10 –--which seems pretty plausible, the government would be confiscating 90 percent of the savings that people have money, and issue a new dollar. Of course if you had no savings, you lost nothing. This could be the final game plan.
What you need to examine, is what would make banks lend again? There is no real profit incentive if the currency gets revalued every 10 years. There has to be a link to gold for real stability, but in lieu of that, you get very high interest rates to compensate for the risk. The real question to ask is how much of our retirement funds are really there? Since there is no real urge to spend it all today, the concept that half of our savings is gone is not apparent.
In just one day, the news of Madoff's failed escapades, turned millionaires into paupers. The sad thing is, they were millionaires until they were told otherwise. Their lifestyle underwent a drastic change. Bernanke and Geithner have tried to create real money out of nothing, trying to replace what has been lost. Money is usually a measure of a man's labor. Printing currency is not a measure of the labor used to build cars, bridges or produce food, no product was created. Its rightful name is counterfeiting
The government can't print gold and silver. I've given my retirement plan the boot. I'm going with silver from here on out, gold is too expensive. I might pay more in taxes, but you have to ask one question: "If toilet paper goes to $200 per roll, did you really enjoy a tax savings by shoving it into an IRA or 401K?
greatdepression2006.blogspot.com/
This IRA vs Silver approach depends on government devaluing the Dollar. Savings disappear with collapsing purchasing power.
401Ks and IRAs will be worthless. They trap you.
At least ponzi schemes collapse when they do not pay out. 401Ks and IRAs do not pay out during your working years and baring poverty, people to not attempt to retrieve their money trapped in them.
======================================================
The Float
Bernie Madoff understood the concept of the float. He had fun with it for 30 years. A bank at any one time doesn’t have the cash to pay off all deposits and there is little worry that it will have to unless there is a run on the bank. What brought Bernie down was the fact the money coming in was less than the money going out.
Let’s travel back in time.
The FDIC insurance fund was established in 1934 to give the people confidence in the banks when there was none. If your bank had a good balance sheet that was up to par with Fed standards they were given the opportunity to become FDIC insured. Nine banks went under that first year, but that wasn’t close to the 4,000 that closed in 1933. The FDIC was pretty much collecting insurance premiums from the banks and paying out very little in claims.
Fannie Mae was created in 1938 to help stimulate the “depressed” housing market. Banks were not interested in investing in home loans. So this government program supplied the banks with federal money to finance home mortgages. Notice here too, the damage to the housing market had already occurred. Fannie wasn’t really sticking its neck out to insure the market.
Then we have the IRA retirement plans that started in 1974. These plans allow a wage earner to shelter income from taxes. Once you put it in the plan, it is no longer yours, the government tells you when you can spend it. Pay in hard earned dollars today and get back watered down whiskey when you retire.
Fast forward back to today.
If we examine the savings of our nation, It is somewhere around 20 trillion dollars. Probably between 8 to 14 trillion of that has vaporized. So going back to the Ponzi scheme, two things have happened that were not anticipated. The FDIC is insuring the bad decisions of bank managment, bank credit became very easy to come by. Also our government is insuring investors against loss for home loans that were written to just about anyone. It could be argued that the government programs encouraged this mess.
Madoff's Ponzi scheme collapsed when funds withdrawn exceeded those being deposited, and it ruined a great many people. Now we have a Ponzi scheme that depends on the Federal Reserve printing currency to cover the bad home loans and cover the failed banks. There is no concept that the Federal Reserve can run out of money or go to jail.
Now if we take this one step further, there was no excess money for Congress to spend during the prosperous years. But they found ways to increase spending. Now we have a financial crisis and funds are being found in abundance. We know that Congress never saved for that rainy day. Just look at the national debt at 12 trillion dollars. Do you get the feeling that somewhere along the line people are going to want real money, not this stuff that Bernanke is printing?
Presently if the dollar were to be revalued, 1:10 –--which seems pretty plausible, the government would be confiscating 90 percent of the savings that people have money, and issue a new dollar. Of course if you had no savings, you lost nothing. This could be the final game plan.
What you need to examine, is what would make banks lend again? There is no real profit incentive if the currency gets revalued every 10 years. There has to be a link to gold for real stability, but in lieu of that, you get very high interest rates to compensate for the risk. The real question to ask is how much of our retirement funds are really there? Since there is no real urge to spend it all today, the concept that half of our savings is gone is not apparent.
In just one day, the news of Madoff's failed escapades, turned millionaires into paupers. The sad thing is, they were millionaires until they were told otherwise. Their lifestyle underwent a drastic change. Bernanke and Geithner have tried to create real money out of nothing, trying to replace what has been lost. Money is usually a measure of a man's labor. Printing currency is not a measure of the labor used to build cars, bridges or produce food, no product was created. Its rightful name is counterfeiting
The government can't print gold and silver. I've given my retirement plan the boot. I'm going with silver from here on out, gold is too expensive. I might pay more in taxes, but you have to ask one question: "If toilet paper goes to $200 per roll, did you really enjoy a tax savings by shoving it into an IRA or 401K?
greatdepression2006.blogspot.com/