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Post by fredorbob on Apr 28, 2010 8:35:31 GMT -6
So what do you think?
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Post by fredorbob on Apr 28, 2010 8:38:48 GMT -6
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Post by waltc on Apr 30, 2010 13:29:01 GMT -6
Say goodbye to offshore drilling and watch BP become the next pariah company hit by a thousand lawsuits.
They can afford it though.
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Post by jeffolie on Apr 30, 2010 14:40:31 GMT -6
Lawsuits will take 20 years. Exxon proved that justice delayed is the Big Oil way.
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Post by graybeard on Apr 30, 2010 21:12:25 GMT -6
I know some workers at a couple of refineries, and when it comes to safety, they're all cheap bastards. It's not like the most profitable company in the history of the world couldn't afford to invest in safety.
GB
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Post by waltc on Apr 30, 2010 23:45:45 GMT -6
Lawsuits won't hurt BP that much unless the coastal states weigh in as well, which will probably happen given the scale of devastation.
This isn't some two bit oil leak but one that will easily surpass Exxon Valdez in scope.
Not to mention killing any and all off shore oil drilling for the next decade or two. It's radioactive now and no party will push it.
Ideally what should happen is that fishermen whose lives have been destroyed by the spill look up the oil rig bosses and shoot the fuckers dead then pay a visit to the homes of BP execs and forcing them to drink some crude.
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Post by unlawflcombatnt on May 1, 2010 2:23:28 GMT -6
Ideally what should happen is that fishermen whose lives have been destroyed by the spill look up the oil rig bosses...and pay a visit to the homes of BP execs and forcing them to drink some crude. LOL. I like that idea. There's some real poetic justice.
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Post by nomad943 on May 1, 2010 6:51:15 GMT -6
What gets me is how does Transocean get to walk away unscathed. They were the ones doing the drilling and they were the ones who undoubtedly were cutting the corners. Granted BP has deeper pockets but Transocean should be shut down.
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Post by fredorbob on May 1, 2010 7:01:10 GMT -6
Real cute MSNBC. For the last couple of days they've been showing this video of the coastline with the blue-gain down to almost zero. It has the effect of making the water look brown, unfortunately it also made the sky and everything else brown too.
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Post by fredorbob on May 1, 2010 7:03:35 GMT -6
Say goodbye to offshore drilling and watch BP become the next pariah company hit by a thousand lawsuits. They can afford it though. Well BP really means "Beyond Petroleum" *doo doo doo doo, doo doo doo doo* I'm sure they can take it, being diversified and all, hehe. Eat your own corporate Politically Correct propaganda BP.
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Post by waltc on May 1, 2010 10:26:02 GMT -6
Saw something interesting this morning on the news. Evidently all the personnel that were on the oil rig have either now have lawyers or aren't talking to the press at all. So all we have now are lawyers or family members representing the crew.
This reeks of cover up. IMO this isn't done unless you're guilty as hell.
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Post by graybeard on May 3, 2010 6:42:57 GMT -6
"Drill, baby, Spill."
The oil companies and Toyota safety analysts must have only a Harvard MBA for training. They are shit stupid. Petrobras, Petroleos Brasileiros, the real deep water experts, claim to have safety valves on their deep wells. My IRA investments in their stock has done handsomely, although I've sold most of what I had at one time.
GB
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Post by agito on May 3, 2010 22:01:59 GMT -6
"Drill, baby, Spill."
Lol- good one
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Post by fredorbob on May 16, 2010 16:51:12 GMT -6
Gee man *looks at watch*, the oil slick hasn't made landfall yet in NO?
NO is one of the largest river deltas in the world, meaning fresh water is pushing salt water AWAY (along with the oil on top). This isn't going to be an Exxon Valdez where your going to see pictures of the poor little birdies drowning in oil because that shoreline in Alaska wasn't a river delta pushing water (and the oil on top) away from the shoreline.
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Post by fredorbob on May 17, 2010 6:20:36 GMT -6
Just pinch the fricking pipe.
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Post by waltc on May 19, 2010 23:34:07 GMT -6
Pinching won't work. It has to be collapsed via high explosives due to the pressures involved. Remember that pipe goes down some 5-6 miles into the earth where the pressures are insane - something 170,000 psi and even the preventers couldn't handle it.
But BP won't do that because they think they can drill it again, this is what the slant drilling is all about BTW. They don't want to give up on this massive money pot to the point of telling their tool Obama and the Democrats to lie to the public about the scale of the disaster and what really happened.
BTW that region is so dangerous that Exxon walked away from a 35,000 foot deep offshore well in 2006 because it's geologists considered it too dangerous to develop, what does that tell you?
Frankly this scares the living daylights out of me.
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Post by fredorbob on May 20, 2010 6:54:56 GMT -6
The pressure down there would actually help in forcing the pipe into a pinch. Pinching the pipe (drop a frigging huge weight on it) would just increase the velocity of the oil, not effect pressure pushing outwards. Like pinching a hose.
Unless the pipe metal is brittle, then it'd just break.
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Post by fredorbob on May 28, 2010 5:38:16 GMT -6
Or just drop a big bomb on the thing.
In drilling there is always risk of the walls caving in, so the drillers put pipe or something like concrete to hold the walls of the thin hole back. It's probably not designed to take a blast from an explosion, just put a depth charge on the damn thing. . . . . Believe it or not i've been watching more MSNBC, and that MSNBC lesbian had something interesting on. She showed old news clips from 1979, let me see if it's on youtube.
Goggles: "MSNBC lesbian", ok Rachel Maddow, alright now to youtube
^^^Watch this, very very very interesting^^^
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Post by jeffolie on May 28, 2010 13:57:50 GMT -6
BP is an asshole.
All the BP actions until now were to collect the oil.
Just now that all the collection efforts have failed, BP tried to STOP the gusher. So 6 weeks of oil gushing were preferred by BP rather than trying to stop the disaster from continuing.
Simpleminded or simply corrupt Obama did not interfere.
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Post by jeffolie on May 28, 2010 17:12:04 GMT -6
BP blocking journalists from spill sites With the Gulf oil spill dominating the news cycle, journalists are flocking to the region. But getting down to Louisiana is the easy part. Once there, journalists are finding that BP — aided by local and federal officials — is making it difficult to cover the environmental disaster. Newsweek's Matthew Philips spoke with a number of journalists in the region. Photographers tell him that officials are "blocking access to the sites where the effects of the spill are most visible," such as "oil-covered beaches, staging areas for cleanup efforts, and even flyovers." Of course, anyone flipping on the cable networks or perusing online news sites has probably seen images from the spill. But Philips says many images "are coming from BP and government sources." Philips' finding is not surprising given the anecdotal evidence of journalists who say they've been prevented from doing their work. Just in the last week, BP contractors stopped a CBS crew from filming and threatened arrests; CEO Tony Hayward was caught on tape yelling "Get outta there!" at a photographer snapping pictures; and Mother Jones reporter Mac McClelland said her efforts to reach Elmer's Island on the tip of Louisiana were thwarted after she was stopped more than once by Jefferson Parish sheriff's deputies. With such access being cut off, Philips writes that journalist trying to cover "the worst environmental disaster in the history" of U.S. waters must do so "against the will of BP." news.yahoo.com/s/ynews/ynews_bs2299;_ylt=Au67ajPgqrT89czgNhNhc3Ks0NUE;_ylu=X3oDMTNodWZhazdpBGFzc2V0A2FwLzIwMTAwNTI4L3VzX2d1bGZfb2lsX3NwaWxsBGNjb2RlA21vc3Rwb3B1bGFyBGNwb3MDMQRwb3MDNgRwdANob21lX2Nva2UEc2VjA3luX3RvcF9zdG9yeQRzbGsDYnBibG9ja2luZ2pv
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Post by waltc on May 28, 2010 20:11:03 GMT -6
Obama and his tools in the Coast Guard will continue to protect BP no matter what. I don't care if that spill will spewing 6 months from now, Obama will protect BP.
Obama knows that his base will support him no matter how bad he fucks up just like Bush always had the backing of the GOP base, he doesn't have to worry one bit. This is why he can party over Memorial Day, blow off the wreath laying ceremony at Arlington and generally giving the country the middle-finger.
Yeah he's blowing off independents, but he doesn't care, the Democrats in general don't need indies to win elections since all the districts are gerrymandered.
All that aside, Obama makes Cheney look like a church boy, the guy is truly a evil a***hole.
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Post by jeffolie on Jun 1, 2010 15:21:18 GMT -6
Efforts to End Oil Flow From BP's Leaking Well Are Over: Oil To Flow Into August
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Post by jeffolie on Jun 1, 2010 15:30:07 GMT -6
federal authorities have opened criminal and civil investigations into the nation's worst oil spill
Did BP's decision to stop trying to end the flow come as revenge?
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Post by graybeard on Jun 2, 2010 9:44:43 GMT -6
Reich has the right idea - put BP into receivership. Let all their future profits go to cleanup and compensation.
GB
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