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Post by fredorbob on Dec 7, 2010 1:44:15 GMT -6
Here's a sample www.thetradingreport.com/2010/09/28/19-facts-about-the-deindustrialization-of-america-that-will-blow-your-mind/The comment sections are the most interesting and it's like this everywhere on the internet, on every blog, nobody uses the word TARIFF even though it is written in stone in the Constitution. Dave20640 - hates lawyers and takes the SEIU stance of exporting our labor/environmental regulations which is a laughable idea. A lefty. U.S. Factory Worker - is a Walmart hater and comes the closest out of all the commentators to using the word TARIFF but never does. A lefty Andrea - still lives in the 1990's free trade propaganda. Probably a righty. Scott - hates politicians. Probably a Glen Beck nut. Brian Habel - thinks the problem is "family values". He's a Mor----mon. Harry Moser - spouts numbers. Probably a mathematician. Don - hates Obama. Probably a Republican. ______________________ Usually there's also a Green, a Ronulan, and a Globalist cheerleader thrown into the mix. The Green commentators will blame "importing oil" and how the solution is to build more windmills. The Ronulan commentators will blame the Jewish "Federal Reserve" and how the solution is to gas em all, haha joking. The Globalist cheerleader will bash everyone else and say how Protectionism is bad. But nobody will use the word "TARIFF", except the Globalist Cheerleader. Nobody uses the word "TARIFF", it's like the N word. We're going to have to hit rock bottom before these idiots admit what needs to be done.
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Post by unlawflcombatnt on Dec 7, 2010 2:13:54 GMT -6
I know exactly what you mean. And in case it hadn't been noticed, I use the word Tariff as often as possible--on this forum and elsewhere--to desensitize and reacquaint Americans with the idea of Tariffs. And I've made a special point wherever possible of stressing the point that "Protectionism" is a good word, not a bad one. We can't seem to get anyone in the media, however, to even mention the word Tariff. Even Dylan Ratigan, who repeatedly derides the fact that American money is being invested overseas instead of in the US, never goes as far as using the word Tariff. And, heaven forbid, our free-traitor-in-chief Obama should ever utter such a politically incorrect term as "Tariff." For if he did, someone might accuse him of not really being one of the "people of the world," as he so un-patriotically claimed in a pre-election speech in Europe. If he were to ever stoop so low as to utter the word "Tariff," foreigners might consider him--horror of horrors--as just another American looking after the interests of American citizens. Wouldn't that be terrible?
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Post by jeffolie on Dec 7, 2010 10:49:35 GMT -6
Tariffs are a great approach.
Tariffs once were the main revenue source for America.
The tariffs approach is decried as evil in main stream education and ignored generally. The single most active political movement to rebel against 'free traitors' that I am aware of was lead by Sir James Michael "Jimmy" Goldsmith (26 February 1933 – 18 July 1997) and failed.
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Post by kramer on Dec 7, 2010 23:20:54 GMT -6
Tariffs are a great approach. Tariffs once were the main revenue source for America. The tariffs approach is decried as evil in main stream education and ignored generally. The single most active political movement to rebel against 'free traitors' that I am aware of was lead by Sir James Michael "Jimmy" Goldsmith (26 February 1933 – 18 July 1997) and failed. So, are you guys here against free trade with all countries or just against trade from countries with cheap imports? I have no problem with free trade with countries that have a standard of living like ours but when it comes to countries with cheap labor, I think we need tariffs to make their products roughly equal in price to ours and may the best product win.
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Post by fredorbob on Dec 8, 2010 3:56:23 GMT -6
I'm going to take this one step further. This isn't categorizing people, this is SELF INFLICTED caricatures. I continue.
Heres another one I saw on FOX NEWS, although I do see them on forums too:
Buy American Guy - A union guy with a Buy American tattoo on their arm who think that all 300 million Americans can somehow permanently put all their transactions into boycott mode. It doesn't matter if a boycott is really suppose to be targeted at one or several industries and it doesn't matter if a boycott is only suppose to be a temporary measure. Typically Buy American Guy is chunky and sports a Metallica Singer hair cut/beard combo which would fit just nice in the mid 19th century. The Buy American Guy never utters the word "TARIFF" either.
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Post by fredorbob on Dec 8, 2010 3:59:52 GMT -6
Tariffs are a great approach. Tariffs once were the main revenue source for America. The tariffs approach is decried as evil in main stream education and ignored generally. The single most active political movement to rebel against 'free traitors' that I am aware of was lead by Sir James Michael "Jimmy" Goldsmith (26 February 1933 – 18 July 1997) and failed. So, are you guys here against free trade with all countries or just against trade from countries with cheap imports? I have no problem with free trade with countries that have a standard of living like ours but when it comes to countries with cheap labor, I think we need tariffs to make their products roughly equal in price to ours and may the best product win. I use to think that too. You mean like Germany, has almost identical middle class and poor incomes? Well Germany is part of the EU and the EU super-subsidizes several industries like Airbus. Yes yes I know the "Hate-America-First Foreign-National Globalist-Guy" will point out that the US subsidizes agriculture, yup yup.
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Post by unlawflcombatnt on Jan 1, 2011 18:24:54 GMT -6
Tariffs are a great approach. Tariffs once were the main revenue source for America. The tariffs approach is decried as evil in main stream education and ignored generally. The single most active political movement to rebel against 'free traitors' that I am aware of was lead by Sir James Michael "Jimmy" Goldsmith (26 February 1933 – 18 July 1997) and failed. So, are you guys here against free trade with all countries or just against trade from countries with cheap imports? I have no problem with free trade with countries that have a standard of living like ours but when it comes to countries with cheap labor, I think we need tariffs to make their products roughly equal in price to ours and may the best product win. For the time being, I'm against trade with all countries we have a trade deficit with, except in oil and essential metals like aluminum. Every reduction in those imports will stimulate domestic demand for the product that is no longer imported, and will ultimately stimulate production of the that good and creation of jobs for workers to produce that good.
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Post by graybeard on Jan 1, 2011 19:28:09 GMT -6
I doubt if we have a trade surplus with any country, or the free traitors would be crowing about it. We merely place tariffs on all value-added products. There's no point in putting tariffs on raw materials like metals and oil.
Raw food imports should be restricted by 100% inspection; processed foods by high tariffs.
GB
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Post by blueneck on Jan 5, 2011 9:03:35 GMT -6
fredorbob - Harry Moser is actually one of the good guys. His organization helps companies find ways to keep production onshore
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Post by blueneck on Jan 5, 2011 9:07:06 GMT -6
What has always puzzled me is that the anti tax crowd hasn't siezed on the tariff as a way to reduce the tax burden on individuals and businesses. Afterall, prior to the era of free trade, the US govt got most of its revenue from tariffs.
And as mentioned above - I don't get why all the so called constitutionalists (tea baggers) aren't for it as well - its in the constitution - congress has the responsibility and authority to regulate trade (largely abdicated to the executive branch thru things like fast track, and international orgs like the WTO)
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