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Post by jeffolie on Mar 1, 2011 9:50:43 GMT -6
Saudi Arabia's March 11th FACEBOOK day of rage, tanks to Bahrain today Oil prices assume Saudi Arabia can and will raise production eventually and that Saudi Arabia will not collapse. Saudi Arabia's sending tanks to Bahrain today might outrage the Saudi 'Shiite Street' into a more serious and more well prepared protest. ======================================================== Saudi Arabia sends tanks to riot-hit Bahrain – paper Eyewitnesses reported seeing "15 tank carriers carrying two tanks each heading towards Bahrain" Bahrain lawmaker accuses U.S. of being behind Arab revolutions Bahrain to go on nationwide strike if government refuses to resign Eyewitnesses reported seeing "15 tank carriers carrying two tanks each heading towards Bahrain" along the 25-km King Fahd causeway, which links the small island nation of Bahrain to Saudi Arabia. Protestors are mainly Shiites account for about 70% of the Bahraini population, but have long complained of discrimination and other abuses by the Sunni Khalifa dynasty that has ruled the tiny Gulf nation for more than two centuries.In the worst unrest in the kingdom since the 1990s, a wave of protests swept across Bahrain in the past weeks. At least six people were killed and hundreds injured in clashes with police. Opposition threatens to hold more protests and a nationwide strike if the government refuses to resign. en.rian.ru/world/20110301/162803894.html
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Post by waltc on Mar 1, 2011 17:20:40 GMT -6
Facebook doesn't dictate shit in the ME, it's the Imans and Mosques. They have the organization and manpower plus the enforcement muscle. Facebook just has a bunch of stupid people with vanity issues.
The Sunni-Shia ratio wasn't always so skewed, it's massive birth rate by the Shia that changed the demographics.
If the Bahrain gov't resigns, the country becomes a Iranian puppet and launch pad to destabilize KSA and cut off oil to the West. Plus we lose the naval port and our presence in the PG takes a serious hit.
Very, very bad for the West. Basically game over us.
Bottom line; we should let the Bahrain gov't club the Shia into submission if we want to keep oil from $200 to $300 a bbl.
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Post by jeffolie on Mar 2, 2011 17:20:51 GMT -6
".... Saudi activists have called on Facebook for a “Day of Rage” on March 11, despite the penalty of lashing for street protest. A similar call to arms in Syria fizzled because people were frightened, and the security forces nipped it in the bud. “We will be watching closely to see how many people turn up, and how far their demands go,” said Mr Abi Ali...' '....Saudi Arabia’s Tadawul stock index has tumbled 11pc in wild trading over the past two days, led by banks and insurers. Dubai’s bourse has hit a 7-year low. "...The latest sell-off was triggered by the arrest of a Shi’ite cleric in the Kingdom’s Eastern Province after he called for democratic reforms and a constitutional monarchy. The province is home to Saudi Arabia’s aggrieved Shi’ite minority and also holds the country’s vast Ghawar oilfield, placing it at the epicentre of global crude supply. '...Tanks were seen crossing the 17-mile causeway from Saudi Arabia to Bahrain on Tuesday.... www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/markets/8358176/Saudi-Arabia-contagion-triggers-Gulf-rout.html
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Post by fredorbob on Mar 3, 2011 12:10:17 GMT -6
Facebook doesn't dictate shit in the ME, it's the Imans and Mosques. They have the organization and manpower plus the enforcement muscle. Facebook just has a bunch of stupid people with vanity issues. The Sunni-Shia ratio wasn't always so skewed, it's massive birth rate by the Shia that changed the demographics. If the Bahrain gov't resigns, the country becomes a Iranian puppet and launch pad to destabilize KSA and cut off oil to the West. Plus we lose the naval port and our presence in the PG takes a serious hit. Very, very bad for the West. Basically game over us. Bottom line; we should let the Bahrain gov't club the Shia into submission if we want to keep oil from $200 to $300 a bbl. Maybe he works at FACEBOOK, or invented it.
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Post by jeffolie on Mar 5, 2011 12:19:43 GMT -6
Friday's planned Facebook Revolution banned by Saudi government. Other governments made the same type of bans against demonstrations, but the military was most important to the outcome. China did stop and suppress most protests effectively. Tunsia, Egypt, Libya, Yemen, Oman, Bahrain did NOT stop and suppress most protests effectively. Facebook, Twitter, blackberries, etc have provided an organizing tool often coordinated by women whose skills evolved from playing nonviolent Farmville on Facebook into 'community organizing' that produced tens of thousands into 'pro democratic' rallies. China's skills involved subverting Facebook users with arrests, physically closing rallying places designated and coordinated by those using Facebook, Twitter, blackberries, etc. =============================================== Saudi Arabia says won't tolerate protests Sat Mar 5, 2011 10:43am EST RIYADH (Reuters) - Saudi Arabia warned potential protesters on Saturday that a ban on marches would be enforced, signaling the small protests by the Shi'ite minority in the oil-producing east would no longer be tolerated. "The kingdom's regulations totally ban all sorts of demonstrations, marches, sit-ins," the interior ministry said in a statement, adding security forces would stop all attempts to disrupt public order. Inspired by protests in other Arab countries there have been Shi'ite marches in the past few days in the east and unconfirmed activist reports of a small protest at a mosque in the Saudi capital Riyadh on Friday. The U.S. ally has not faced protests of the scale that hit Egypt and Tunisia that toppled veteran leaders, but dissent has built up as unrest has spread in Yemen, Bahrain, Jordan, Libya and Oman. More than 17,000 have backed a call on Facebook to hold two demonstrations this month, the first one on Friday. more... www.reuters.com/article/2011/03/ ... 9N20110305
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Post by waltc on Mar 5, 2011 13:22:43 GMT -6
Facebook, Twitter, blackberries, etc have provided an organizing tool often coordinated by women whose skills evolved from playing nonviolent Farmville on Facebook into 'community organizing' that produced tens of thousands into 'pro democratic' rallies.
This has to be the best joke I've seen since DOW 36000.
Guess what? In Islamic states women are chattel, they don't organize people especially men. Their place is being subservient to men at all times, lest they be beaten or killed by their husbands for not knowing their place.
BTW take hard look at those "protests" there are very few women present at most of them. In some there aren't any to be seen.
In terms of organizing, the Mullahs and Iman's have that down pat since they are community bosses. In more primitive states like Pakistan and Afghanistan you also have sheiks or tribal elders that give the orders and organize people.
Women play no role.
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Post by jeffolie on Mar 5, 2011 14:12:14 GMT -6
Facebook, Twitter, blackberries, etc have provided an organizing tool often coordinated by women whose skills evolved from playing nonviolent Farmville on Facebook into 'community organizing' that produced tens of thousands into 'pro democratic' rallies.
This has to be the best joke I've seen since DOW 36000. Guess what? In Islamic states women are chattel, they don't organize people especially men. Their place is being subservient to men at all times, lest they be beaten or killed by their husbands for not knowing their place. BTW take hard look at those "protests" there are very few women present at most of them. In some there aren't any to be seen. In terms of organizing, the Mullahs and Iman's have that down pat since they are community bosses. In more primitive states like Pakistan and Afghanistan you also have sheiks or tribal elders that give the orders and organize people. Women play no role. I personally know women play a huge role using Facebook: I have a niece getting her PhD, who speaks fluent Arabic, travels a lot in the M.E., coordinates 3 live feeds from current M.E. revolutions on her FACEBOOK. Women in the M.E. coordinate using cyber communications including Facebook.
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Post by jeffolie on Mar 6, 2011 15:43:49 GMT -6
CRUSH the Rebels...Darth Saud goes Death Star Like evil Sith Lords reaching out to the 'dark side'....The House of Saud, monarchs decided to crush the rebellion with death...and also his Bahraini neighbor's Rebels. "...The Sith are a group of characters in the Star Wars universe. They are the central antagonists. Characterized by a single-minded pursuit of power and disdain for sentient life, they are an alliance of warrior mages who use the dark side of the Force...." ============================== Saudis Mobilise Thousands Of Troops To Quell Growing Revolt Saudi Arabia's worst nightmare – the arrival of the new Arab awakening of rebellion and insurrection in the kingdom – is now casting its long shadow over the House of Saud. Provoked by the Shia majority uprising in the neighbouring Sunni-dominated island of Bahrain, where protesters are calling for the overthrow of the ruling al-Khalifa family, King Abdullah of Saudi Arabia is widely reported to have told the Bahraini authorities that if they do not crush their Shia revolt, his own forces will. www.chrismartenson.com/blog/dail ... t-36/53682
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Post by jeffolie on Mar 10, 2011 13:31:47 GMT -6
Shots fired, protesters died...Thursday the 10th Oil prices bounced off $100 low (WTI Day low $100.62 Day high $105.06)...now $103 =================================================== Saudi police open fire at protest By SARAH EL DEEB The Associated Press Thursday, March 10, 2011; 1:36 PM CAIRO -- Saudi police have opened fire at a rally in the kingdom's east in an apparent escalation of efforts to stop planned protests. Government officials have warned they will take strong action if activists take to the streets after increasing calls for large protests around the oil-rich kingdom to press for democratic reforms. A witness in the eastern city of Qatif says gunfire and stun grenades were fired at several hundred protesters marching in the city streets Thursday. The witness, speaking on condition of anonymity because he feared government reprisal, said police in the area opened fire. The witness saw at least one protester injured. www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/co ... 03269.html
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Post by waltc on Mar 10, 2011 15:55:19 GMT -6
Americans are getting stupid with their worship of high tech. They've stopped using their brains.
I see the same mentality at work that occurred when the Iranian secularists and students started protesting against the Shah. Americans thought everything would turn out great.
It didn't for us or the Iranian people.
It hasn't in Egypt where the murders of Coptic Christians have skyrocketed since Mubarak's leaving. Even the Army has attacked churches and monasteries.
And the situation for Egyptian women is even grimmer now.
Funny how the much vaunted Facebook and their coordinators sitting safe here in the U.S. remain silent in the face of Christian pogroms the persecution of Egyptian women.
Or their silence on Muslim female genital mutilation.
As far as I am concerned Facebook is full of bullshitters and self-promoting clowns.
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Post by jeffolie on Mar 10, 2011 18:59:20 GMT -6
Most all of these Facebook 'day of rage' events have been just the starting day. None of these were one day revolutions. Tunisia's day took weeks to bring down their dictator as did Egypt. Libya's revolt may even fail leaving a tribal mess and divided chaos. China has effectively suppressed the protests.
Nothing is for certain except many are dying in the revolts.
The House of Saud has gone to the darkside with killing protesters already. Nothing will be settled tomorrow.
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Post by jeffolie on Mar 14, 2011 12:52:09 GMT -6
A Shiite revolt in Saudi Arabia would send oil sky high, maybe over $200 Pissing off the Shiites in Saudi Arabia by Sunni Monarch Saudis sending troops to support the Sunni monarchy in Bahrain may make a Shiite revolt in Saudi Arabia happen or not ... just a thought =================================================================== Saudi troops arrive in Bahrain as protests escalate Amid concerns of a Shiite uprising in Bahrain, Saudi Arabia sent troops to support the Sunni monarchy. Bahrain's opposition denounced the move as an 'occupation.' Anti-government protesters form the words "Game Over" with bricks as they block the roads from riot police at the junction of Bahrain Financial Harbor in Manama March 14. Bahrain has been gripped by its worst unrest since the 1990s after protesters took to the streets last month, inspired by uprisings that toppled the leaders of Egypt and Tunisia. March 14, 2011 Saudi forces have reportedly arrived in Bahrain to reinforce its police, who clashed with protesters yesterday in an escalation of the month-long Shiite-led protests calling for democratic reform. Why Bahrain's Shiite majority is restless despite election gains The Saudi forces are there on behalf of the Gulf Cooperation Council (GCC), the regional organization of which Bahrain and Saudi Arabia are both members. Their intervention underlines Saudi Arabia's deep worry over the unrest on its border, but it’s likely only to harden the stance of the protesters, who have been unsatisfied by the government's response to their demands. The protest is led by Shiites, who make up about 70 percent of Bahrain’s population, which has been ruled by the Sunni Al Khalifa family since the late 1700s. The country's Shiites complain of discrimination and have called for government reforms. Opposition groups said Monday that the Saudi intervention was a declaration of war. Protests that began with calls for democratic reform and an end to Shiite discrimination are now calling for regime change. “The entry of the Saudis does not mean these people are going to go back to their villages quietly,” says Toby Jones, a Gulf expert at Rutgers University. “It raises the stakes.” Meanwhile, a pro-government parliamentary bloc on Monday called on the king to impose martial law after 100 people were reportedly wounded Sunday. Police attacked the mostly Shiite protesters who were blocking a highway leading to the financial district in the capital Manama. They used tear gas and rubber bullets against the demonstrators, but were unable to disperse them. Clashes between protesters and Sunni government supporters also erupted on the campus of a university in Sakhir. Those events followed large protests on Friday, in which hundreds were wounded when protesters marching to government offices were attacked by police and government supporters who carried sticks and clubs. Bahrain is home to the US Navy’s Fifth Fleet, and Secretary of Defense Robert Gates was in the country Saturday, urging the government to move more quickly toward reform. The White House released a statement criticizing the violence Sunday. “We urge the government of Bahrain to pursue a peaceful and meaningful dialogue with the opposition rather than resorting to the use of force," the statement said. But Dr. Jones says the entry of Saudi military forces will make the situation stickier for the US, which will find it more difficult to publicly criticize its key ally. Saudi Arabia has moved quickly to quell stirrings of protest within its own kingdom in recent weeks. It’s unclear whether Bahrain actually asked for assistance, or whether it was imposed by its larger neighbor, says Jones. “It could very well be that Riyadh made a phone call and said ‘we’re coming,’” he says. Either way, the foreign forces are not welcomed by protesters, who reportedly called it an "occupation" and continued to block streets in the capital Monday. The renewed call for dialogue by Crown Prince Salman bin Hamad al-Khalifa Sunday night, in which he offered to discuss increasing the power of the parliament, is too little, too late, says Jones. The openness of the opposition to discuss reform with the government “is very quickly evaporating,” he says. “People are not going to be satisfied unless something more substantial happens.” www.csmonitor.com/World/Middle-East/2011/0314/Saudi-troops-arrive-in-Bahrain-as-protests-escalate
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Post by waltc on Mar 14, 2011 13:15:00 GMT -6
Day of rage is more like a day of protests ordered by Tehran.
Tehran is making a bid to corral ME oil production in big way by using the Shia within the oil producing as their proxies. If they get Bahrain and the Northern Saudi oil fields, they have the West by the balls.
Here's the other thing Shia and Sunni don't get along period. Put them together and they kill each other if you don't have a draconian police force to keep them from doing so. Live and let live isn't in their collective thought processes.
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Post by graybeard on Mar 14, 2011 13:48:01 GMT -6
How about the Shia majority in Iraq?
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Post by waltc on Mar 14, 2011 23:18:06 GMT -6
The Shia won in Iraq politically and economically and by extension Iran thanks to the U.S. But it doesn't mean they like us. They generally hate Christians, Druzes and Sufis to the point they routinely murder them. Muslim women walking in public now have to wear a niquab or Burkha and be escorted by men or they will be raped or murdered by faithful Muslim men.
Bombings still occur with alarming regularity. There is no real peace in Iraq, only a temporary truce.
Don't forget we are bribing the Sunnis to the tune of billions a year to keep the peace. The moment we stop paying the bribes they grab their car bombs and go blowing up like they were doing prior to us bribing them.
Our 50,000 troops also serve to back up that bribe with armed might.
It's going to get real interesting in Iraq once those troops leave at the end of the year. Historically those sides do not get along.
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