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Post by jeffolie on Mar 27, 2011 14:24:49 GMT -6
Americans appear too complacent and pleased with rejecting Democrats by electing a Republican Houses for my tastes and do not understand that America is headed to a European styled austerity.
'Bread and circuses' distract and entertain average American with about 50% now Facebook users. Women seem happy to text about immediate shallow social meetings and relationships on their phones an average of 1000 times per month while ignoring all important political issues. Women that voted for Obama voted to reject Democrats in November but did not join the Republican party with changing their voter registrations. Women for the most part kept their jobs, not men. Women have spending money and are not angry.
Minor and failing protests by public sector unionized workers will not bring significant 'politics of the backlash' to dislodge control from the financial elites over corporations and government. If anything, Republicans are energized by destroying unions and Obama's appeasement of Tea Party influenced House Republicans. The European version of 'politics of the backlash' is happening and as I predicted PIIGS leaders are falling/losing control. Americans favor rejecting Democrats for now, I expect Americans will reject Republican austerity after they comprehend it in 2014 or beyond as a 'politics of the backlash' against Republicans. But, by then the financial damage to US Treasuries' interest rate will be done resulting in PIIGS styled high yields leading to financial disaster. Women will get angry when they are broke, then resulting in using Facebook to coordinate and organize protests that become riots as women now are doing in the Mid East.
American riots in 2014 or beyond.
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Post by waltc on Mar 27, 2011 15:27:20 GMT -6
Sort of, it's independent white males who were/are pissed and walked away from both parties. They voted in droves for Obama in 2008 and told him to piss off in 2010. This allowed the GOP to walk right in and take the brass ring.
The fact is Independent voters are the fastest growing segment of voters.
The GOP may find they face similar alienation in 2012 should they continue on the path they are on.
All we need now is for the independents to go 3rd party and derail the entire political machine the elites have built.
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Post by whoswho on Mar 30, 2011 12:31:43 GMT -6
American women have changed drastically for the worst, IMO, and the biggest problem is that they're way too damn polite to admit that anything they or another woman has done ... is a failure, or might be morally wrong, or has adversely affected others.
They just keep mindlessly charging down the same road, just "cockeyed optimists" (as the song from the movie South Pacific described it).
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Post by jeffolie on Mar 30, 2011 12:56:50 GMT -6
American women have changed drastically for the worst, IMO, and the biggest problem is that they're way too damn polite to admit that anything they or another woman has done ... is a failure, or might be morally wrong, or has adversely affected others. They just keep mindlessly charging down the same road, just "cockeyed optimists" (as the song from the movie South Pacific described it). I have 3 young adult daughters...soon all 3 will be living at home (the 2 in college never left home)...so I have real life experience with their life outlooks. Yes, they love to love, they love to have fun... My home is so busy with all the women's coming...going...guests...friends ================================== Cyndi Lauper sings: Girls Just Wanna Have Fun I come home in the morning light, My mother says "When you gonna live your life right?" Oh,mother,dear, We're not the fortunate ones, And girls, They wanna have fu-un. Oh,girls, Just wanna have fun. The phone rings in the middle of the night, My father yells "What you gonna do with your life?" Oh,daddy,dear, You know you're still number one, But girls, They wanna have fu-un, Oh,girls,just wanna have That's all they really want..... Some fun.... When the working day is done, Oh,girls, They wanna have fu-un, Oh,girls, Just wanna have fun.... Girls, They want, Wanna have fun. Girls, Wanna have Some boys take a beautiful girl, And hide her away from the rest of the world. I wanna be the one to walk in the sun. Oh,girls, They wanna have fu-un. Oh,girls, Just wanna have That's all they really want..... Some fun.... When the working day is done, Oh,girls, They wanna have fu-un. Oh,girls, Just wanna have fun... Girls, They want, Wanna have fun. Girls, Wanna have. They just wanna, They just wanna..... They just wanna, (Oh....) They just wanna..... (Girls just wanna have fun...) Oh... Girls just wanna have fu-un... They just wanna, They just wanna.... They just wanna, They just wanna.... (Oh...) They just wanna... (They just wanna have fun...) Girls just wanna have fu-un... When the workin', When the working day is done. Oh,when the working day is done, Oh,girls... Girls, Just wanna have fu-un... They just wanna, They just wanna.... They just wanna, They just wanna have fun... Girls just wanna have fu-un.. They just wanna, They just wanna.... They just wanna, They just wanna.... (Have fun..) They just wanna, (Girls wanna have fun) They just wanna.... Oh,girls... (Wanna have fun....) Girls just wanna have fu-un. When the workin', When the working day is done. Oh,when the working day is done, Oh,girls, Girls just wanna have fu-un. They just wanna, They just wanna.... (Oh,girls...) They just wanna, (Have fun....) Oh,girls.. Girls just wanna have fu-un They just wanna, They just wanna... When the working day is done... (fades) www.stlyrics.com/lyrics/ridingincarswithboys/girlsjustwannahavefun.htm
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Post by whoswho on Mar 30, 2011 13:50:18 GMT -6
Back in the day.... they broke our plate when we reached 18! I was home longer than any of our 5 siblings, leaving home at the ripe old age of 20. My mom "facilitated" the move! And, it was definitely a case of "ready or not", you're out the door! I hadn't even finished my post secondary education (vocational school). I left on *her* terms, not mine.
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Post by jeffolie on Mar 30, 2011 17:44:23 GMT -6
Back in the day.... they broke our plate when we reached 18! I was home longer than any of our 5 siblings, leaving home at the ripe old age of 20. My mom "facilitated" the move! And, it was definitely a case of "ready or not", you're out the door! I hadn't even finished my post secondary education (vocational school). I left on *her* terms, not mine. I am different than your mom. I never will tell my 4 adult children to leave 'if they are ready or not'. My wife and I find life more interesting with their somewhat frenetic, active lives and do not feel burdened by their living at home. I am doing what I can to develop them into independent, earn their own incomes, educated, healthy people. I expect they will leave when they can to escape some of my house rules and have their own much more private lives as soon as they can. One daughter is temporarily returning home, the oldest, next month after a broken relationship that asted 13 years. I expect financial doom to get horrible, probably in 2014+ but to start in 2013 with a decline of the Dollar, merely about 1 and half years from now...making jobs difficult to keep or find. By summer of 2012, only one of the 4 will still be in college and searching for work. I expect them to be forced back home from the doom...through no fault of their own. Doom from financial collapses do not last forever, although the Great Depression finally finished with the start of a world war...tough way to end a collapse...most historical financial collapses did not last as long or finish that way...my kids will get by and make it back into the world eventually even if the doom happens and a lot sooner if the doom never happens.
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Post by whoswho on Mar 31, 2011 7:19:05 GMT -6
Even *I* don't agree with my mom... and if I'd had kids of my own?.... no, I would not have done what she did.
I hear a lot of people say, well, your parents don't OWE you anything.
Okay, very well, I can accept that.
If they don't want to be involved, that's fine... but I thought they should TELL me so early on, so I'd KNOW that, and could maybe help myself. Don't just throw me out on the tender mercies of the government, or whoever. See, I just assumed that I WAS doing my part, by making good grades. I didn't think I was a poor investment! But apparently she did.
The only positive I can pull out if it is, it did make me way stronger and more independent than I would normally have been. I took hold of my own education, because it was apparent that nobody else would. And it did cause me to walk into some interesting paths in life.... that turned out to be more lucrative than if I had done all the stereotypical things that kids my age did.
I don't know why my dad let her do it. He lived thru the Great Depression, and stayed home with his dad well into his thirties!
Ironically, when she got old... she wanted me to move back in with her. I thought about all I went thru during those years of living with her, how stressful that was. And she was getting dementia, and being around her was super super stressful. Since she made it easy on herself? .... I made it easy on myself. I stayed in my own house. I DID take care of her.. but she didn't get her way, for once.
It sounds like I don't love her, but I genuinely do. I don't hold it against her. I understand she didn't have the raising that she gave me, and that she had her human limitations, and maybe she didn't truly understand how things impacted on my life.
Heh heh.... oh well. It was different!!!
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Post by jeffolie on Mar 31, 2011 9:23:24 GMT -6
Even *I* don't agree with my mom... and if I'd had kids of my own?.... no, I would not have done what she did. I hear a lot of people say, well, your parents don't OWE you anything. Okay, very well, I can accept that. If they don't want to be involved, that's fine... but I thought they should TELL me so early on, so I'd KNOW that, and could maybe help myself. Don't just throw me out on the tender mercies of the government, or whoever. See, I just assumed that I WAS doing my part, by making good grades. I didn't think I was a poor investment! But apparently she did. The only positive I can pull out if it is, it did make me way stronger and more independent than I would normally have been. I took hold of my own education, because it was apparent that nobody else would. And it did cause me to walk into some interesting paths in life.... that turned out to be more lucrative than if I had done all the stereotypical things that kids my age did. I don't know why my dad let her do it. He lived thru the Great Depression, and stayed home with his dad well into his thirties! Ironically, when she got old... she wanted me to move back in with her. I thought about all I went thru during those years of living with her, how stressful that was. And she was getting dementia, and being around her was super super stressful. Since she made it easy on herself? .... I made it easy on myself. I stayed in my own house. I DID take care of her.. but she didn't get her way, for once. It sounds like I don't love her, but I genuinely do. I don't hold it against her. I understand she didn't have the raising that she gave me, and that she had her human limitations, and maybe she didn't truly understand how things impacted on my life. Heh heh.... oh well. It was different!!!I took my difficulties with my father and went a different path with my children. He meant well but fathers and sons do not always get along well. Now my children appreciate our parenting and moderate hands on approach by telling us we are great parents without shying away from confronting us with complaints regarding what I consider trival matters like bugging them to do their turn at dish cleaning, etc. Olie and I consider ourselves blessed with our relationships with our now adult children which is tremendously better than the relationships Olie and I had with our parents. I answered one daughter's questions about medical problems that might run in our families medical histories yesterday that we have 'contagious insanity'...our kids drove Olie and me crazy...we laughed.
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Post by graybeard on Mar 31, 2011 9:49:31 GMT -6
Yeh, like the bumper sticker:
Insanity is Hereditary; You Get It from Your KIds.
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