Post by jeffolie on Jun 1, 2011 14:58:59 GMT -6
Has FED caused a new 1937 repeat collapse in 2011?
YES to a smaller degree.
Mark Twain: "History never repeats itself; at best it sometimes rhymes"
The FED made the same 1937 mistake in 2011 to a smaller degree with the result of the current ECONOMIC STALL that I alerted to on May 17th. Ending QE2 and continuing with buying only 'maturing Treasuries' in the FED's own portfolio is a drop in stimulus. My jeffolie 2011 prediction included this 'Gridlock' both economically and politically...I first posted of 2011 and 2012 Gridlock in a post in 2008...ECONOMIC STALL that I alerted to on May 17th is this predicted economic and political Gridlock in real time.
QE3
Will the FED boost its post QE2 buying program with another additional layer of buying...QE3?
Most likely the FED will add more buying, but I am guessing the FED will wait until after the Debt Ceiling is passed with Trillions in fiscal cuts. The FED may want to see how much stimulus is needed from the Trillions cut to make up for the anticipation of lower government spending; plus, the FED may want to be asked to come to the party by desparate business and government levels from the ECONOMIC STALL that I alerted to on May 17th.
What was the 1937 mistake?
The government in 1937 believed the depression had ended after almost 1.5 years of recovering growth. The attitude was that stimulus, financial support must be stopped to avoid INFLATION. They failed, epic failed as the recovering growth died collapsing back to the deep dark depression level...but WWII saved the American economy in 1939, Hilter's blitzkrieg of Poland and other parts of Europe afterwards.
Mark Twain: "History never repeats itself; at best it sometimes rhymes"
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COMMODITIES AND THE MISTAKE OF 1937
The NY Fed has a very good piece on their blog this morning titled “Commodity Prices and the Mistake of 1937: Would Modern Economists Make the Same Mistake?” It helps shed some light on the current economic environment and shows why investors should not be too quick to assume that high inflation will result from the commodity price increases. They say:
“In 1937, on the eve of a major policy mistake, U.S. economic conditions were surprisingly similar to those in the nation today. Consider, for example, the following summary of economic conditions: (1) Signs indicate that the recession is finally over. (2) Short-term interest rates have been close to zero for years but are now expected to rise. (3) Some are concerned about excessive inflation. (4) Inflation concerns are partly driven by a large expansion in the monetary base in recent years and by banks’ massive holding of excess reserves. (5) Furthermore, some are worried that the recent rally in commodity prices threatens to ignite an inflation spiral.”
They go on to show how economists now focus on headline CPI and not the volatile parts that include commodity prices. This helps “smooth” their outlook and avoid jumping to conclusions. Interestingly, however, the current Fed may have made the exact opposite mistake in 2010.
In August 2010 the Fed panicked over the Euro crisis and a sharp spike in jobless claims that coincided with a few weak economic reports. At the time, prices were in a strong disinflationary trend. And they responded. QE2 was the result. The NY Fed described the 1937 period as a failed response to the rise in commodity prices at the time – in effect, they tightened when they shouldn’t have. You can see the rise in commodities in the following chart:
Ironically, QE2 preceded the most recent surge in commodity prices. And as the BOJ concluded, the Fed and speculation has likely contributed to this rise in commodity prices. As I’ve stated before, this sort of misguided intervention can have a destabilizing effect on the economy. So, interestingly, it’s not the response to the commodity price spike that may have been the policy error this time around - it was the misguided response to price declines, resulting in QE2 that appears to have created the current air pocket in the global economy….
pragcap.com/commodities-and-the-mistake-of-1937
YES to a smaller degree.
Mark Twain: "History never repeats itself; at best it sometimes rhymes"
The FED made the same 1937 mistake in 2011 to a smaller degree with the result of the current ECONOMIC STALL that I alerted to on May 17th. Ending QE2 and continuing with buying only 'maturing Treasuries' in the FED's own portfolio is a drop in stimulus. My jeffolie 2011 prediction included this 'Gridlock' both economically and politically...I first posted of 2011 and 2012 Gridlock in a post in 2008...ECONOMIC STALL that I alerted to on May 17th is this predicted economic and political Gridlock in real time.
QE3
Will the FED boost its post QE2 buying program with another additional layer of buying...QE3?
Most likely the FED will add more buying, but I am guessing the FED will wait until after the Debt Ceiling is passed with Trillions in fiscal cuts. The FED may want to see how much stimulus is needed from the Trillions cut to make up for the anticipation of lower government spending; plus, the FED may want to be asked to come to the party by desparate business and government levels from the ECONOMIC STALL that I alerted to on May 17th.
What was the 1937 mistake?
The government in 1937 believed the depression had ended after almost 1.5 years of recovering growth. The attitude was that stimulus, financial support must be stopped to avoid INFLATION. They failed, epic failed as the recovering growth died collapsing back to the deep dark depression level...but WWII saved the American economy in 1939, Hilter's blitzkrieg of Poland and other parts of Europe afterwards.
Mark Twain: "History never repeats itself; at best it sometimes rhymes"
=========================================================
COMMODITIES AND THE MISTAKE OF 1937
The NY Fed has a very good piece on their blog this morning titled “Commodity Prices and the Mistake of 1937: Would Modern Economists Make the Same Mistake?” It helps shed some light on the current economic environment and shows why investors should not be too quick to assume that high inflation will result from the commodity price increases. They say:
“In 1937, on the eve of a major policy mistake, U.S. economic conditions were surprisingly similar to those in the nation today. Consider, for example, the following summary of economic conditions: (1) Signs indicate that the recession is finally over. (2) Short-term interest rates have been close to zero for years but are now expected to rise. (3) Some are concerned about excessive inflation. (4) Inflation concerns are partly driven by a large expansion in the monetary base in recent years and by banks’ massive holding of excess reserves. (5) Furthermore, some are worried that the recent rally in commodity prices threatens to ignite an inflation spiral.”
They go on to show how economists now focus on headline CPI and not the volatile parts that include commodity prices. This helps “smooth” their outlook and avoid jumping to conclusions. Interestingly, however, the current Fed may have made the exact opposite mistake in 2010.
In August 2010 the Fed panicked over the Euro crisis and a sharp spike in jobless claims that coincided with a few weak economic reports. At the time, prices were in a strong disinflationary trend. And they responded. QE2 was the result. The NY Fed described the 1937 period as a failed response to the rise in commodity prices at the time – in effect, they tightened when they shouldn’t have. You can see the rise in commodities in the following chart:
Ironically, QE2 preceded the most recent surge in commodity prices. And as the BOJ concluded, the Fed and speculation has likely contributed to this rise in commodity prices. As I’ve stated before, this sort of misguided intervention can have a destabilizing effect on the economy. So, interestingly, it’s not the response to the commodity price spike that may have been the policy error this time around - it was the misguided response to price declines, resulting in QE2 that appears to have created the current air pocket in the global economy….
pragcap.com/commodities-and-the-mistake-of-1937