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Post by jacquelope on Sept 2, 2011 13:11:09 GMT -6
"…Labor is prior to, and independent of, capital; that, in fact, capital is the fruit of labor, and could never have existed if labor had not first existed — that labor can exist without capital, but that capital could never have existed without labor. Hence they hold that labor is the superior — greatly the superior — of capital." - Abraham Lincoln dig.lib.niu.edu/teachers/econ1-lincoln.html
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Post by blueneck on Sept 5, 2011 7:17:21 GMT -6
Too much cannot be said against the men of wealth who sacrifice everything to getting wealth. There is not in the world a more ignoble character than the mere money-getting American, insensible to every duty, regardless of every principle, bent only on amassing a fortune, and putting his fortune only to the basest uses —whether these uses be to speculate in stocks and wreck railroads himself, or to allow his son to lead a life of foolish and expensive idleness and gross debauchery, or to purchase some scoundrel of high social position, foreign or native, for his daughter. Such a man is only the more dangerous if he occasionally does some deed like founding a college or endowing a church, which makes those good people who are also foolish forget his real iniquity. These men are equally careless of the working men, whom they oppress, and of the State, whose existence they imperil. There are not very many of them, but there is a very great number of men who approach more or less closely to the type, and, just in so far as they do so approach, they are curses to the country. (Forum, February 1895.) Theodore Roosevelt
The man of great wealth owes a peculiar obligation to the State, because he derives special advantages from the mere existence of government. Not only should he recognize this obligation in the way he leads his daily life and in the way he earns and spends his money, but it should also be recognized by the way in which he pays for the protection the States gives him. Theodore Roosevelt
Behind the ostensible government sits enthroned an invisible government owing no allegiance and acknowledging no responsibility to the people. Theodore Roosevelt
Rhetoric is a poor substitute for action, and we have trusted only to rhetoric. If we are really to be a great nation, we must not merely talk; we must act big. Theodore Roosevelt
It is essential that there should be organization of labor. This is an era of organization. Capital organizes and therefore labor must organize. Theodore Roosevelt
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Post by unlawflcombatnt on Sept 5, 2011 9:16:18 GMT -6
Excellent quotes from Teddy Roosevelt.
Too bad we don't have more like him.
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Post by jeffolie on Sept 5, 2011 10:31:00 GMT -6
Excellent quotes from Teddy Roosevelt. Too bad we don't have more like him. Obama copied and tried to posture as Roosevelt many times. Obama is no Roosevelt.
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Post by blueneck on Sept 6, 2011 4:20:00 GMT -6
Excellent quotes from Teddy Roosevelt. Too bad we don't have more like him. Obama copied and tried to posture as Roosevelt many times. Obama is no Roosevelt. Nope - not even close. TRs quote about big talk needs to be followed with big action is certainly appropriate here more apt comparisons are to too little too late Hoover, or intelligent, well meaning and articulate Carter who was a totally ineffectual leader
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Post by blueneck on Sept 6, 2011 11:03:52 GMT -6
Excellent quotes from Teddy Roosevelt. Too bad we don't have more like him. And since both Roosevelts came from positions of privilege it gives it that much more credibility both were also considered to be traitors to their class
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Post by jacquelope on Sept 6, 2011 12:02:58 GMT -6
Excellent quotes from Teddy Roosevelt. Too bad we don't have more like him. And since both Roosevelts came from positions of privilege it gives it that much more credibility both were also considered to be traitors to their class I bet they did not say THAT to Teddy's face, though.
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Post by blueneck on Sept 6, 2011 12:11:46 GMT -6
probably not - they might have met the "big stick" ;D
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