There are clear indications of a high-energy fragmentation weapon (that is, a missile with a proximity fuse) impact on the wreckage. The photos are clear and convincing evidence that the plane was hit by such a missile and broke up in midair. Conclusive, no, but convincing, yes.
The BBC says there was such a launcher in the area and Russians controlled it at the time (in addition there were other reports contemporary with the downing of rebels thinking they had hit a Ukranian military aircraft.)
Nevermind that it's incompatible with reason that the Ukranian government would have fired on a plane traveling from west to east (not from Russia, but rather from the EU) as such a plane was obviously not Russian, and the rebels had no aircraft of their own.
There you have it folks -- pretty much as I expected to find from the preliminary information.
Oh Vlad.... your dudes appear to have shot a civilian airliner -- accidental or not, the evidence looks pretty solid.
Post by unlawflcombatnt on Sept 10, 2014 23:16:23 GMT -6
Wow! Deninger really got this one wrong!
The Ukrainians had every motivation imaginable to shoot the plane down. They knew they could easily blame it on the separatists --especially with the aid of the Corporatist-controlled American media whores.
Deninger ignores the fact that the Ukrainian separatists didn't even have the capacity to shoot a plane down at 33,000 feet.
There's no evidence that they had the weaponry necessary to shoot that high.
But in contrast, the Ukrainian pro-Nazi junta DID have the missile capability to shoot the plane down.
And the Ukrainian junta has something else as well. They have fighter jets that could have shot the airliner down. (Again, the Separatists don't have an air force.)
And, as I've posted on this forum 2 days ago, there are published photographs of nearly round holes --and even a perfectly round hole--in the fuselage of the plane.
Those holes are not 'shrapnel' holes from a missile explosion. They're bullet holes. At 33,000 feet, bullet holes can only come from gunfire from a high-flying aircraft. Since the Separatists don't have any high-flying aircraft, they did not come from Separatist gunfire.
They came from Ukrainian fighter jets, which were reported by multiple sources to be flying near the downed jetliner.
The Ukrainians shot the plane down, not the Separatists.
Unfortunately, the US propaganda machine has convinced many Americans --including Deninger--that the Separatists shot the plane down.
This has happened despite no real evidence whatsoever.
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