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Post by graybeard on Oct 21, 2010 20:53:22 GMT -6
I'm seeing and hearing lots of debate on tv and radio, but have some different questions:
Will legalization increase the consumption of pot? By how much?
Will increased consumption cause decreased consumption of other mind numbing substances? Budweiser coming out against the prop makes me think so.
Big pharma being against it is a given. Will prop 19 decrease the demand for prescription painkillers?
Is illegal pot being spiked with harder drugs today?
Will increased consumption from legitimate sources decrease the tie to harder drugs?
Instead of pot being labeled a "gateway drug", maybe it will become a substitute drug?
My perspective: I do not use pot, and have not, other than a couple of events many years ago. I have never drunk booze or smoked, either, and I don't use any painkillers. My drug of choice, if you want to call it that, is coffee.
GB
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Post by graybeard on Oct 25, 2010 7:33:11 GMT -6
I read recently that the polls are skewed, because the pollsters call only landlines, and the percentage of young people without landlines is large. I expect a large turnout of young voters in Calif for Prop 19. Repub losses will be collateral damage. Prop 19 is the wedge issue of 2010.
GB
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Post by waltc on Oct 27, 2010 22:39:13 GMT -6
I don't use the shit but I know a lot of people who do and here's my view.
Legalizing pot will only have a effect IF and only IF prices come down from the current $300-$400 a ounce to say $50.00 a ounce. Only then it will attract druggies who otherwise use prescription pain killers or meth.
It's like any other market, your product has to be priced right to attract customers.
Still there have been and are other avenues of getting high that don't cost anything except your dignity, consider "jenkem"; toad licking; smoking cigarettes dipped in Formaldehyde; smoking every salvia plant in existence, etc.
On the legal front take a look at that new beer called Loko which is 12% alcohol and loaded with caffine and kola nut. Which makes a single can equivalent to a 6 pack and 4 cups of coffee. Now you can get stinking drunk and be jacked up at the same time and drink even more Loko! It's all the rave on college campuses.
With legalized crap like Loko selling like gang busters, it makes a mockery of the war on drugs.
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Post by graybeard on Oct 28, 2010 7:52:48 GMT -6
Prescription painkillers and hard drugs are mostly opiates. Part of my question above is whether legalizing pot will reduce the consumption of opiates. You're saying it will, if the price comes down. By all accounts, that is a good thing.
My guess is that local govts will tax pot to kill, and thereby keeping the drug cartels and big pharma in business.
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Post by unlawflcombatnt on Nov 3, 2010 3:08:15 GMT -6
It looks like Prop 19 failed.
The real problem is that there are too many people in this state that want to tell others how to run their lives.
It's a personal liberty issue as far as I'm concerned, and not enough people want to allow others to have such liberty, even if it has no direct effect on themselves.
You don't have to smoke pot, or even like it, to favor allowing others the right to like it and use it.
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Post by graybeard on Nov 3, 2010 7:35:38 GMT -6
I also think they sold it too hard as a revenue producer, and not enough as preferred over alternative mind alterers such as booze and hard drugs. I think using pot reduces demand for the other drugs, which is why outfits such as Budweiser fought it.
GB
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