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Post by fredorbob on Aug 15, 2011 17:25:39 GMT -6
Myth and Propaganda. I tried to attack one of the most common myths and it was locked.
I said something that was assumed to be radical and discomforting, which it really isn't. Most people view Tariffs to be radical and discomforting, but it really isn't.
This is how I get banned from forums, I see how far I can push common myths; not a play on words. I do try to make a point, but usually get cut off before the finale.
I can continue, you say, "YOU ARE WHAT?!" and then I say... . . . I've read up on 19th century Yellow Journalism, combine that with mass hysteria, and it sort of reminds me of common political belief systems of today: trade, culture, taxes, environment.
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Post by fredorbob on Aug 15, 2011 12:25:41 GMT -6
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Post by fredorbob on Aug 14, 2011 11:47:50 GMT -6
I wish people would stop repeating that cliche, "WW2 ended the great depression". If killing people and spending money on bombs improves the economy then we would be in a Great OppositeOfDepressionWordICan'tThinkOfRightNow.
You guys are repeating modern propaganda from brainwashing methods that are more effective then anything used in the past; and you won't even let me play with a little antisemitism. Be assured I am an anti-Semite, I don't like Muslims/Islam and that whole fucking middle eastern area. These bastards have been a plague on mankind since day one: from the time they taxed trade like the silk road between the east and the west to today when they live fat off oil money they are nothing but a society of gluttons.
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Post by fredorbob on Aug 14, 2011 1:07:57 GMT -6
Probably at no time does wind power generate all the power needed by the grid. What it does is reduce the amount generated by coal and gas. Wind energy is not wasted. Almost all the cost is up front with wind and solar, so the costs are predictable and not at the whim of Wall Street. Sounds like a good deal in the long run. GB There is more "Wall Street" in wind and solar then in real electricity.
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Post by fredorbob on Aug 14, 2011 1:06:55 GMT -6
Ha, ha, ha. Even the Germans found this out and why they got rid of their wind farms. Intermittent power does not equal baseline power. Wind and solar are toys for rich people to quell their guilty conscious, they feel guilty for being rich as it should be.
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Post by fredorbob on Aug 12, 2011 21:15:37 GMT -6
Well I agree that lower population density equals higher standard of living, but if the solution is gonna have to be genocide I'd start with executing the guy who wrote this; like how the Tyrant of Sicily tested out the new Brazen Bull on it's inventor.
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Post by fredorbob on Aug 12, 2011 21:08:21 GMT -6
Alcoa Inc. (AA) American Express Co. (AXP) AT&T Corp. (T) Boeing Co. (BA) Caterpillar Inc. (CAT) Citigroup Inc. (C) Coca-Cola Co. (KO) DuPont Co. (DD) Eastman Kodak Co. (EK) Exxon Mobil Corp. (XOM) General Electric Co. (GE) General Motors Corp. (GM) Hewlett-Packard Co. (HWP) Home Depot Inc. (HD) Honeywell International Inc. (HON) Intel Corp. (INTC) International Business Machines Corp. (IBM) International Paper Co. (IP) J. P. Morgan & Co. (JPM) Johnson & Johnson (JNJ) McDonald's Corp. (MCD) Merck & Co., Inc. (MRK) Microsoft Corp. (MSFT) Minnesota Mining & Manufacturing Co. (MMM) Philip Morris Companies Inc. (MO) Procter & Gamble Co. (PG) SBC Communications Inc. (SBC) United Technologies Corp. (UTX) Wal-Mart Stores, Inc. (WMT) Walt Disney Co. (DIS)
How many Americans do they employ, how much business is done in the states? 60%? 50%? 40%?
Starting from the top:
3M
74 manufacturing facilities in 27 states 93 manufacturing and converting facilities in 32 countries outside the United States
Alcoa
Alcoa has interests in 25 primary aluminum smelters in 8 countries. (10 in US, 15 outside US)
American Express
OK I'm done playing this game
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Post by fredorbob on Aug 11, 2011 23:37:34 GMT -6
Fredorbob nailed it with this. Women jobs' are artificially propped up by the welfare state and globalization. Guess my conclusion is that this situation is artificial and can't last forever.
You got it. You know the big problem is, women make up 50% of the vote, so that may need to be taken away in the future.
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Post by fredorbob on Aug 11, 2011 23:33:56 GMT -6
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Post by fredorbob on Aug 11, 2011 23:22:05 GMT -6
It's the pro-slavery interests gaining strength again, that's all.
Not the end of the world, just history repeating itself. And in history about 330,000 Confederates were killed, out of 9 million. So if you halve the current US population we will have to kill about 5,500,000 pro-slavery Americans to set things right again. That's allot of bullets.
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Post by fredorbob on Aug 11, 2011 23:15:39 GMT -6
Desktops taking over the job of capitalists. That should say something right there.
Looks like they're obsolete, and don't object or I'll call you a Luddite.
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Post by fredorbob on Aug 11, 2011 14:47:57 GMT -6
'Women jobs' are artificially propped up by the welfare state and globalization. Guess my conclusion is that this situation is artificial and can't last forever. Nice Great Depression stats.
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Post by fredorbob on Aug 11, 2011 14:37:10 GMT -6
Nobody listens to McInsane anymore. He's like Kerry except with a noxious temper and foul mouth. I know but Ratigan said the core of problem is lobbyists, and lobbyist reform is McCain's signature issue (even if signature issues are nothing but election ploys and have no application in the real world and we all know this).
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Post by fredorbob on Aug 10, 2011 18:30:40 GMT -6
One other thing, All this hoopla isn't over our REAL Economy(the one that actually makes things) but the Parasite Economy(Banks, Real estate, Wall Street). If the dollar died tomorrow the REAL Economy would still be around while the Parasite Economy would die. We can and will survive that. And Parasite economy is dying from rot and excess and the powers that be are going to do everything to save it. Even if it means wrecking the country. The talking heads on TV are very good at keeping this little nugget away from the American people. As long as Free Trade exists the Parasite economy will flourish while the real economy will suffer. Have to disagree there.
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Post by fredorbob on Aug 10, 2011 18:29:48 GMT -6
The problem in the U.S. is wealth extraction. Ever since NAFTA and banking deregulation took place during the Clinton admin, trillions of dollars have left the U.S. in the form of yearly trade imbalances that has gutted our country and sent $6 trillion dollars into foreign hands(1995-2010). Prior to NAFTA and PNTR with China trade imbalances were minor and our economy was healthy and we employed 10 million more Americans. Neither party wants to talk about this because it makes them look stupid and corrupt, which they are in spades. The other culprit. Banking/Wall Street. They created a bubble machine that inflated the stock market then facilitated a faux real-estate boom in the 90's followed by the Dot Com bubble. This sucked out another trillion plus dollars from Americans. This doesn't include the latest real-estate bubble. Then there is the Bush tax cuts cuts that cost us a trillion or so. The money was never reinvested putting Americans to work, it was put in hedge funds and other vehicles that earned the rich a fat return. Iraq and Afghanistan cost us conservatively $1.2 trillion and latter is a ongoing expense of $12 billion a month. Then there's TARP/TALC/ and all the tax free breaks major corporations get. Trillion here a trillion there, it ads up. Yes, lets not alter our trade, tax and foreign policies that put us in this mess. Until you threaten people with losing their entitlements, they will still be ignorant.
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Post by fredorbob on Aug 9, 2011 19:45:04 GMT -6
They look like 2+ gallon tanks.
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Post by fredorbob on Aug 9, 2011 19:44:01 GMT -6
Denninger has a link to Ratigan video He rips both parties a new asshole and lays it out what's happening to America. Short and to the point. Worth the viewing. market-ticker.org/akcs-www?post=191863Then Mr. Campaign Finance reformer comes in (McCain) and says, "I've got a plan."
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Post by fredorbob on Aug 9, 2011 18:18:15 GMT -6
...social security.
So those people who say, "our children and grandchildren will pay for our mistakes," as if that was an undesirable scenario, will eat their words.
Bring meaning and context back to the English language, instead of talking like a bunch of drug addicts.
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Post by fredorbob on Aug 9, 2011 17:59:38 GMT -6
List of country credit ratings en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_credit_ratingThis list makes no sense, doesn't take into account history and cultural attitudes. Seems like a short term memory thing. Greece at the very bottom looks more like punishment for recent events by some banker throwing a temper tamtrum for not getting payed, then a "credit rating".
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Post by fredorbob on Aug 9, 2011 17:29:34 GMT -6
How much weight on those packs are those big water bladders?
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Post by fredorbob on Aug 8, 2011 21:52:30 GMT -6
Pretty slick. Republican Party creates shell party. Shell party gets blamed. Republican Party comes off looking clean.
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Post by fredorbob on Aug 7, 2011 8:14:59 GMT -6
I've been kicking around in my head the name for a new 3rd party. The word "protectionist" is always part of that internal dialogue. How about the Populist Protectionist Party? Or just the Protectionist Party? Either seems appropriate to me. The time has come for a 3rd party to be formed--to at least steal votes from the major parties, and cause one of them to incorporate more protectionist policies. You don't have to win elections to change policy. You just have to intimidate the winners into changing their own policies. America First Party Protectionist Party sounds like a 1-issue wonder party.
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Post by fredorbob on Aug 7, 2011 2:22:55 GMT -6
Unlike others I did watch the Libertarian/Green/Constitution/Reform Party 2008 3rd party debates, and I distinctly remember McKinney's complete and total focus on race. I was like, "Wut? What about that Global Warming crap?"
Part 1 - Cynthia McKinney Green Party Acceptance Speech
1st Comment listed on this video
It's no big mystery when you understand that ideology takes 2nd seat to tribalism. I would even say that people use political parties, ideology, as a proxy for racism.
And stop being afraid of the word "racism". In the context I used that word in a completely neutral manner it's just another 'ism, like environmental'ism, athe'ism, and magnet'ism (haha).
She even manages to subdivide African Americans into smaller increments like Hatians, and even smaller sub-sub-sub divisions of male and female. I mean that's quite an accomplishment.
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Post by fredorbob on Aug 7, 2011 2:07:48 GMT -6
The Tea Party has always been a bit of a joke and mostly a GOP astroturf operation. yea
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Post by fredorbob on Aug 7, 2011 2:04:47 GMT -6
Yesterday was the 30th anniversary of Rotten Ronnie Reagan firing the PATCO air traffic controllers. That made open season on all unitons. Back then about 30-35% of all workers were union. Now it's 5%. He also killed the anti-trust div of the DOJ. GB So you are saying the Republican Party is responsible for Union membership downgrading from 30-35% to 5%?
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Post by fredorbob on Aug 6, 2011 0:29:54 GMT -6
I'd greatly appreciate it if members would cease and desist from apparent bigotry and bashing of Jews. Furthermore, I would point out that there are a lot of Jews that are generally on the right side of things. Many are populist stars--like Joseph Stiglitz, Bernie Sanders, Robert Reich, David Sirota, Eliot Spitzer, Alan Grayson, Russ Feingold, Ted Kaufman, Sam Seder, etc. We need to build an alliance with those who are like-minded, not push them away. It's not "Jewish" banksters and "Jewish" globalists that are the problem. It's banksters and globalists in general. You don't think politics/ideology is subservient to ethnicity? Whites in Republican Party, blacks voting for Obama, Latinos voting for Latinos, and the rest of world history? ...And the Han Chinese make up about 20% of the total human population, making it the largest ethnic group in the world. ....And Cynthia McKinney turning the Green Party into a poor-black-me-minority-pity-fest. C'mon, you've got to be blind not to see this trend in human nature.
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Post by fredorbob on Aug 5, 2011 3:08:52 GMT -6
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Post by fredorbob on Aug 5, 2011 2:48:58 GMT -6
Yeah, like I said: Ideology/politics is subservient to ethnicity/race.
Marxism, an internationalist ideology, with disproportionate amount of Jewish members or founding members.
Don't forget the other side of the coin too: Globalist Capitalism, another internationalist ideology. All Jewish congresscritters and last 2 Jewish Federal Reserve chairmen are Globalist Capitalists. David Ricardo, that ugly Comparative Advantage theory, Jewish. This form of ugly Capitalism also has a disproportionate amount of Jewish members or founding members.
Jews, an ethnic group, naturally tend to think internationally because they didn't have a national home. Now they do, but you don't see Israel acting like an internationalist scribbler, they serve their own interests like any normal country would. Israel is neither Communist or a Free Trade David Ricardo utopia. Those Jews living outside of Israel still think internationally, Jews living inside Israel think like normal people do now they are the majority ethnicity living in their own country.
Israel has a 17% VAT and an import tax of 5-90% on most imports. 1/3rd of Israel's revenue comes from Tariffs, *ahem* I mean VAT. It is definitely not a David Ricardo utopia.
Someone's Ideology/politics is subservient to their ethnicity, just like National Socialism is subservient to the German ethnicity. Here minorities gravitate to the left, whites gravitate to the right. There are no higher morals, no higher goals that transcend their own ethnicity; or tribe.
America is suppose to be a transcendental idea, hahahaha not anymore. We're going to be dragged down into the cliche pit.
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Post by fredorbob on Aug 5, 2011 2:08:32 GMT -6
I says high population density = lower standard of living.
Either it was a neocon talking head or a congresscritter neocon I was watching on TV last week; and that neocon was saying something like, "We need growth, and that means we need more people," in relation to the topic of immigration.
That's what growing the economy REALLY means to them, even if all industry is destroyed through free trade and the immigrants can't find jobs, oh he must mean cotton pickers.
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Post by fredorbob on Aug 5, 2011 2:05:47 GMT -6
Homeric proportions huh.
*drags off cig*
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