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Post by fredorbob on Nov 18, 2009 4:44:28 GMT -6
Here's another interesting article about China, describing the same situation: China's production of goods for which there is no demand for, and building production capacity in excess of the demand for production. Is China headed toward collapse?By Eamon Javers Nov. 10, 2009 . . . He speculates that Chinese state-run companies are buying fleets of cars and simply storing them in giant parking lots in order to generate apparent growth. Another data point cited by the bears: overcapacity. For example, the Chinese already consume more cement than the rest of the world combined, at 1.4 billion tons per year. But they have dramatically ramped up their ability to produce even more in recent years, leading to an estimated spare capacity of about 340 million tons, which, according to a report prepared earlier this year by Pivot Capital Management, is more than the consumption in the U.S., India and Japan combined. This, Chanos and others argue, is happening in sector after sector in the Chinese economy. And that means the Chinese are in danger of producing huge quantities of goods and products that they will be unable to sell. . . . "Unable to sell"? haha, that's not their plan. Oh there's a pattern here, it makes perfect sense; the Chinese are building an industrial base for WAR; with our jobs and our prosperity. So not only will you give the Commies your jobs, you might be soon giving them your life as well. Thanks free traitors.
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Post by fredorbob on Nov 18, 2009 4:39:22 GMT -6
America is to blame, not China. China didn't force us to enter the WTO, or give it favored trading partner status, or relocate our industries there. This is the result of corporate greed and shortsightedness, and government corruption. You blame "America" as a whole? China treats it's own citizens as slaves and protects it's markets. "America" isn't entirely to blame, and neither is "America" as a whole to blame. It's the free traders who did this, along with China.
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Post by fredorbob on Nov 18, 2009 4:29:23 GMT -6
Yes let's combine Frugality with Green Communism and a Regressive Economy, we'll all be back in the stone age in no time.
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Post by fredorbob on Nov 18, 2009 4:26:57 GMT -6
I couldn't get past the 1st question on the short quiz. Supply can create demand. Demand can create supply. I accept supply and demand. Had the question been asked, do you believe supply and demand must be in balance, I could have checked an answer. Supply can't exceed purchasing power without creating deflation and slowdowns in production. . Purchasing power can't exceed supply without creating inflation. Supply/demand within economies have to be in balance. Supply doesn't create Demand, Demand is an entirely isolated from Supply, Demand is what drives the economy. A shortage of supply doesn't increase Demand, a surplus of supply doesn't increase Demand. Ridiculous questions.
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Post by fredorbob on Nov 18, 2009 4:13:36 GMT -6
Did I already create this topic somewhere else? ;D
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Post by fredorbob on Nov 18, 2009 4:12:27 GMT -6
The Downside of the "Tea Party"mises.org/story/2435^^read^^ This is how an honest regressive views the real Boston Tea Party. The tea incoming to Boston from India was TAX FREE and the cheapest the colonists had seen in 70 years. So why did they "rebel"? Read. The regressives who hold "Tea Parties" today do it in direct opposition to the spirit of the original Boston Tea Party. Everything the regressives stand for, everything they believe, is directly 180 degrees opposite of history.
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Post by fredorbob on Nov 18, 2009 3:55:31 GMT -6
If an Italian guy walked up to me on the street and said he was selling a "gold coin" for $50 i'd refuse too. Too many scammers
You do realize that even if you actually physically possessed the gold, you would have a hard time moving it. If you are worried about inflation purchase Alcohol, Tobacco, and Firearms. You know, consumables everyone knows the value of.
American's aren't idiots, those are actually smart consumers avoiding a rip-off; and perhaps just perhaps gold isn't valued as it use to and I think that is a good thing, and a very Christian concept. That would be real "progress".
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Post by fredorbob on Nov 18, 2009 3:48:52 GMT -6
huh?
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Post by fredorbob on Nov 18, 2009 3:46:32 GMT -6
Dang I feel the itch to read some Soviet fiction.
not.
The Ayn Rand cult goes hand in hand with the Ronulan cult. Libertarians and Anarchists.
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Post by fredorbob on Nov 18, 2009 3:43:32 GMT -6
It's possible the automobile industry is naturally shrinking. If I had a choice between a fast computer or a fast car i'd pick a fast computer. I like playing games. I'm not making excuses for the free traitors, the naturally shrinking automobile industry should be protected from foreign slave labor and kept here.
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Post by fredorbob on Nov 1, 2009 1:51:50 GMT -6
China knows it will never recover it's excess in dollar reserves, but they are building a large industrial base to wage war with.
What percentage of China are "free-market" zones? 10%? 5%? How can people be so blind.
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Post by fredorbob on Nov 1, 2009 1:44:30 GMT -6
Do the labels really matter? I think this whole left vs right labels is useless. To me the left and the right are just working for the same goal and using there power to extract money from us all to put it into the pockets of their friends and wage war against their enemies. Yep, both sides are screwing us Hitlers party was the National Socialist Party. Hitler then became a Dictator from the False Flag event (they burned down their own congress building and blamed it on their enemies...kind of like our 911...inside job hint hint) Then Hitler took over everything from the car manufactures, to food production and farms to schools, newspapers and radio...kind of like Obama. Fascism and Communism are basiclly the same thing, just different model. The powerful elites use threats so the people become fearful, they give a solution, and take control. It worked in the time of the Romans and it certainlly works today. There is really no difference between the left or the right either. Our government has failed us both obama/bush/clinton are all traitors and sold the middle class down the river. www.infowars.com/the-two-party-system-has-failed-america/Uhhuh, yeah, right, we bombed ourselves and Obama is Hitler. Uhuh. Stop insulting Hitler, Obama is an incompetent rube. Democrats have a supermajority in Congress, the presidency and the courts, and they still can't get healthcare past. You insult Hitler. The only reason Democrats won, is the very reason we are all in this forum, because the real Republicans stayed home and refused to vote for open-border/free-trade neocons. And the Democrats know this.
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Post by fredorbob on Nov 1, 2009 1:42:02 GMT -6
Labels are like uniforms on the battle field. If you are going to take on both the right and the left, you are going to have to give yourself a label so that people will identify you. they aren't "important" ... just useful. Labels are nouns and quite necessary in language to communicate. Re-Gress-Ives.
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Post by fredorbob on Nov 1, 2009 1:37:08 GMT -6
Average weekly wages are $613/week, which comes out to almost $32,000/year. Why does it cost $250,000 to create 1 job that pays $32,000/year? Do they have to buy each worker an airplane? It's the new math. I agree with you, the amount of job losses have been in the tens of millions, perhaps 50 million.
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Post by fredorbob on Oct 30, 2009 12:29:58 GMT -6
Bush is quite fallible, like his nominees.
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Post by fredorbob on Oct 24, 2009 2:32:50 GMT -6
CNG is a very good solution if the vehicle has room to store it, like under a full size pickup or larger. It takes about five times as much space as gasoline. Just getting large trucks to use it would help. GB It won't require any artificial market manipulation for CNG to compete, when the time comes it will compete with oil, everyone should stop worrying.
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Post by fredorbob on Oct 24, 2009 2:32:07 GMT -6
The Pickens Windfarm was essentially a scam whose existence was predicated on sky high oil prices and using a ever shrinking supply of natural gas for cars of all things! Yeah take fuel from power generators and let people fuel up their SUV's and rely on very interminttant wind power. And worse, the power generation specs were pure bullshit. They were way out of whack of industry norms like the Tehachapi wind farm in CA. I'm glad its dead and I hope Concentrated Solar Power follows suit, now that's environment wrecker if there ever was one. We'd be better off strapping every Al Gore worshipper to a treadmill for power.
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Post by fredorbob on Oct 24, 2009 2:29:16 GMT -6
Do the labels really matter? Wall, TV, Mouse, Paint, Monitor, Keyboard, CD, Air; yeah i'd say labels are important, it's how humans communicate, they put labels on things, call them nouns, and put the nouns into motion with verbs. Got to do this since we can't read minds.
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Post by fredorbob on Oct 24, 2009 2:25:14 GMT -6
In the 90's when I was driving truck I had a laptop with me and it ran a map program, that map program was compatible with a mouse-looking device that I hung out the window which collected GPS positional info, and I got it to display my position on the map program in real time. This is long before Tom-Tom car navigation systems and it certainly didn't cost $200-$800, geez, damn i'm looking at the prices online for these systems. The map-program was like 20 dollars and so was the GPS device. I brought my laptop with me to play games while I was waiting to get loaded or unloaded, which seemed to last forever. Bragging session over. It helped allot. I couldn't stand the horrible directions I'd get over the Quailcomm and figured there had to be a better way. I haven't driven truck in like 9 years now. So do they have better internet connections yet, or do they still have those crappy (really crappy with high ping) modem connections at some truck stops?
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Post by fredorbob on Oct 24, 2009 2:14:29 GMT -6
I am a believer in absolute liberty and to be truly free there must be free trade. All markets are run by the individuals that participate in them (producers and consumers) who's actions are wildly unpredictable on an individual basis. The only constant factor in markets is government. Although governmental laws change they are significantly slower then market changes. If we remove all governmental barriers in the world economy (that being taxation, borders, corporations, regulations, etc.) what do you think would be the result economically speaking? Maybe chaos theory can help explain the answer. Please, try to remove all biases from your mind as much as possible. You're naive if you think you're going to get every government on the planet to remove trade barriers, and even if you could do it, it would lower US wages to the global median wage which is around 50 cents an hour.
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Post by fredorbob on Oct 23, 2009 1:00:26 GMT -6
Of course our trade deficit continues to be sky high even with a falling dollar. The difference in wages between China and the US is still great.
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Post by fredorbob on Oct 21, 2009 16:01:45 GMT -6
Seems to me, Jewish diaspora lasting for so long, Jews tend to think internationally and not nationally. Maybe they feel like outsiders in their own country they live in, feel like they aren't being welcomed, so their thinking is internationalism. Communism is internationalist in flavor. So is Free Trade (not fair trade) internationalist in flavor. That would mean the exception of Israel, where Jews don't feel like outsiders. www.nationsencyclopedia.com/Asia-and-Oceania/Israel-CUSTOMS-AND-DUTIES.htmlWell i'll be a monkeys uncle, they're not all gung-ho internationalists in Israel. I guess when you own your own country, theory and practicality collide. Or how about the illegal population in the US. Maybe the Mexicans feel like outsiders here which drives their belief in open borders. Internationalism snowballs into anarchy.
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Post by fredorbob on Oct 20, 2009 15:11:41 GMT -6
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Post by fredorbob on Oct 19, 2009 15:28:25 GMT -6
Neocons try to paint Union members as ogres and Communists, while they praise foreign Communist, Oligarchs and slave labor.
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Post by fredorbob on Oct 18, 2009 23:17:45 GMT -6
Bankers, used car salesmen, law-yers, career politicians, snake oil salesmen. yay.
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Post by fredorbob on Oct 17, 2009 12:01:32 GMT -6
What's the Liberty Coalitions stance on Globalization, Free Trade, Tariffs, Outsourcing work to foreign nations, taxes for the top 5%, Financial Reform and Immigration? I'm very interested in these issues, thanks. It's probably another invention by Washington to distract and derail any real 3rd party movement. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liberty_Coalitionlawl
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Post by fredorbob on Oct 17, 2009 11:56:45 GMT -6
Tariffs and taxes will necessarily become more reasonable once the Republic destroys the money-printing machine that is the Federal Reserve. So the Federal Reserve just prints money for the hell of it huh. So tell me, why does the Federal Reserve print more money then it should. Whoah whoah hold on there Kemosabe. Are you saying the Federal Reserve prints money then hands it to Congress to dispense? Libertarians claim tariffs are nothing but destructive taxes, "The Coalition" is starting to sound like another Lib org. How you going to manage that, kill off one half? lawl "And we're going to magically unite 2 mutually exclusive concepts with the wave of this wand."
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Post by fredorbob on Oct 17, 2009 11:40:00 GMT -6
The neocons piss and whine about how the US is uncompetative because of regulation. Regulation like minimum wages laws. Regulation like child labor laws. Regulation like overtime laws. Regulation like the EPA preventing toxic chemicals from being dumped into drinking water.
The neocons also say that the days of $30 an hour manufacturing jobs are long gone because there's a Chinaman who's willing to do it for 30 cents an hour. The neocons want Americans earning slave wages.
The neocons also accuse anyone who disagree with them of being "progressive", the new buzzword. Well in the world of buzzwords and buzz phrases there needs to be a counter, so it is perfectly logical to call them "regressive". If the neocons oppose everything progressive, then it is intellectually accurate to call them "regressive". They want to return to the good old days of slavery, snake oil salesmen, and poisoned drinking water, they are "regressives".
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Post by fredorbob on Oct 17, 2009 11:30:55 GMT -6
Neocons should be refered to as "regressives". They want to remove minimum wage laws, child labor laws, and even environmental laws that prohibit dumping toxic chemicals anywhere. They want US citizens earning Chinese wages, basically they want to return to the good old days of slavery.
They are fucking regressive. So I am now calling them regressives, not neocons.
FUCK YOU REGRESSIVES! Burn in fucking hell, i'd rather have 4 more years of Obama and a Democrat supermajority then you fucking pricks.
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Post by fredorbob on Oct 16, 2009 8:02:30 GMT -6
Palin is their new Goddess of Conservatism, like Ron Paul was the God of Libertarianism, and Fred Thompson was the Last Great Hope.
Which means she's just another neocon.
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